That number on the floor tom is usually hand written in red ink. The #600 probably refers to the outfit number in the catalog. The numbers I've seen hand written are the model numbers not the outfit numbers.

That is the correct bearing edge for L.A. era Camco drums. Also the shells are 6 ply Keller shells and to my ears sound more like Rogers drums than the sound usually associated with Camco (Made in Oaklawn, Ill. using 3, 4 or 6 ply Jasper shells).

L.A. Camco drums are very well built drums and the reinforcement separation you are talking about usually happens on older Camco drums from the Oaklawn and Chanute eras. You may also notice that the shells are very undersized even by todays standards. They are also much thinner than earlier Camco era drums.

Good luck on finding parts as they are hard to acquire.

I have seen a couple of L.A. Camcos close up without heads and the edges were definitely sharper looking,more like a rogers bearing edge,that could be partially responsible for the L.A. camcos sounding like rogers along with the keller shell thing.The rogers and camco edges to me are sort of the bridge between the rounded vintage edge and the modern 45 or double 45 degree edge.

So you mean that #600 refear to Otfitt number in catalog?

[IMG]http://camcodrummer.com/Catalogs/Camco/LA/jpg/cat3b.jpg[/IMG]

But if you looka at this 600 outfit, it contains 22" basdrum, and I have 24? Same with fllortom, it says 16x16, mine is 18x17"?

Or could it be that they changed later? This catalog is from 1973, my drums could be from for example 1976, and then they changed #600 configuration?

As I can see , my drums are looking very-very similar to the this catalog picture. On the catalog side beloww, they call it "Stravidarius finnish"?

I thought only snares was called stravidarius? If I look in t the ctalog with finishis, mine should be called Walnut Stain or Ebony Stain?

What is right?

[IMG]http://camcodrummer.com/Catalogs/Camco/LA/jpg/cat3a.jpg[/IMG]

But here is nothing called Stravidarius. According to this page, it should be Ebony Stain or Walnut Stain

[IMG]http://www.camcodrummer.com/Catalogs/Camco/Oaklawn/cat2/jpg/cat2i.jpg[/IMG]

What is right?

P.S. I like lot name "Stravidarius finish", hehhe, I hope it´s free for me to choose name!!!

I am not shure how Rogers bearing edges look like, but those are different from teh "usualy" vintage B earing edges. But as I said, I can not realy find that they have been manipulated or changed....

And whats most importatnt, yhey looks great everywhere ( on the picture abow is a dark dott - not damage as it look like )

I streeped yesterday floor tome, cleans all hardware, clean carfullly wood outside, put on some furniture polish, and thay acctualy look very very well.

Put on Ambassador coated, and as you said, THEY ARE UNDERSIZED? A lot, allmost.

But if you take some time, to put heads in the middle, there was no problem. I tuned upp it a little bit, and my good, what a ressonnas and bas from thet tom Mind Blowi !!!! Me like it lot!!!!

This will be great, now I just must find 4 floortom legs, and decited what to do with that stupid non-original "Pearlih" tom holder

2010-07-09

So i finaly streeped drums alnd clan upp hardware and polish shell on floortom. Some scatches, but OK for me.

I have been read that Camco even have a very undersized shells. Now I undertaind. Just take a look at this photo. It was not easy to put on heads. You realy have to put them IN THE MIDDLE, and same with hoops. Otherwise heads "jump out". Little tricky. But I made it att last. It could be, that those hoops are not original, and that hoops from Camco is smaller, so you avoid this "problem."

Could it be "wrong" hoops?

So, new heads on . Some scratches, but look ok to me. But whats most important:

Woow, what a sound!!!! Amazing.

Now I KNOW and HEARD why lot of peppole says that Camco is maybe THE WORLDS BEST EVER SOUNDING DRUMSET... If rest of drums will sound as well as this one, this would be the best sounding kit I EVER heard. Lott , lott, lott of bas. Open and well-well resonant. They are singing without any overtonnes. Fantastic!!!

The color swatch you posted is from the Oaklawn era. Stradivarius was only available in the L.A. era. Your drums are definitely walnut as stradivarius is more red.

As for the #600 tag. Are they on all the drums? Also the 600 outfit could have been that configuration but not necessarily those sizes. Who knows for sure as Camco's methods were alWAYs a bit confusing.

And the L.A. Camco bearing edge is not really like Rogers as the point on the bearing edge is actually in the center of the shell and not near the edge like on Rogers.

Hmmm, It must be faded image, the first set (c-650) is Starvidariius according to ctsalog text. And they not look so red to me att all.

And yes, I agree, now it seems that Stravidarius was accutaly more Red than mine ( picture above is maybe faded???). I even see some snares in Stravidarius finish on internet, and they are, as you said more red than mine.

And about bearing edges, you have right too, mine is more in the center of shells.

But what do you think about mine hoops ? They are almost 1/2 cm bigger than shells ( and heads too ) ...!?!

So, now I have cleaning all hardware on toms, clean and polish tom shels. New heads on.

So they are looking.

But "Big Jobb" with basdrums is still to do