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That's one (black) beautiful snare, John. You are very lucky. I had a Black Beauty snare in my hands, but it was way out of my price range. I hope I don't regret my hesitation. :(

Please get a recording of that snare and kit, so we can hear the awesomeness.

-Tim

Posted on 11 years ago
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Wow Purdie ... Get caught up in the moment ? I was kinda hoping to see a photo-doc. breakdown of the drum, no boring cleaning and resto. stuff , then a finished photo-op.

You`re prolly playing right now., ....change some of it`s close and get groovy with it.

It was a good buy, nice drum and from what I read, a great seller.

If not by the pool, these drums should at least get good close-up for some of the eyes that watch this board.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
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From thornbeck

That's one (black) beautiful snare, John. You are very lucky. I had a Black Beauty snare in my hands, but it was way out of my price range. I hope I don't regret my hesitation. :(

Before this one, the only ones I'd ever seen were at drum shows, or in photos. I would drool every single time Mike Curotto would post photos of one of these. When this one came up I immediately checked the bank balance and decided that -this time- I'm pulling the trigger! The only consideration/hesitation (ever) about buying one of these, has always been - finances. I just couldn't justify the expense, there were always 'higher priorities' that had to be attended to. Not this time... this one is mine! I'm having a ball with it.

> these drums should at least get good close-up

You mean closer than the ones I took? What parts of the drum do you want to see details of? I'm not going to take it apart just to photograph parts, but if there is any particular details that I can get a close-up of, that you really want to see, I'll be happy to photograph it for you. I can also take interior shots as I have a clear Evans 300 on the snare side. You can see inside ok pretty much. Let me know what you want a close-up of...

Thanks again for your interest, all the very kind words and the (at times,) much needed support.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
#193
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There are few photos of what it actually looked like. The heads were tight and now it appears to be a floating head with the Aluminum rings, that makes big differences in the way it sounds. Does it have a snarebed,? I couldn`t tell with the skin but now I think I see a small one.

Never heard or saw the beaded edges, the photo is too reflective under that lighting and can`t see it well. First time hearing but not seeing that for me.

sh*t like that I don`t have to ask with a proper photo documented tear down. You did tear it down once.

Are ya sit`n ?......

....Did the lightbulb work in a lamp ?

!i

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
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> There are few photos of what it actually looked like.

Tom posted several in his original thread. Look for original Black Beauty Found thread, more photos of the drum in original condition are already posted there.

>The heads were tight and now it appears to be a floating head with the Aluminum rings, that makes big differences in the way it sounds.

I'm sorry, I don't understand.'Floating head'? What do you mean by a floating head? The calf heads and gut snares made the drum sound like a wet cardboard box. You bet I changed the heads.

>Does it have a snarebed,? I couldn`t tell with the skin but now I think I see a small one.

Yes, the same crimped beds like you'll see on all their brass snare drums.

>Never heard or saw the beaded edges, the photo is too reflective under that lighting and can`t see it well. First time hearing but not seeing that for me.

Again, sorry, I'm not a pro photographer. I did the best I could with the shot. I'll take a couple more and see if it isn't a little easier to see the rings.

> sh*t like that I don`t have to ask with a proper photo documented tear down. You did tear it down once.

How many 'photo documented tear downs' have you seen here at VDF? I wasn't approaching the thread that way (as a photo document on Black Beauty's) I was just sharing how I acquired and cleaned-up the drum. I'm taking photos indoors under not so optimum lighting conditions (incandescent bulbs) and I apologized for the dark photos up front. If I could have gotten some better shots, I would have. WYSIWYG - what you see is what you get.

....Did the lightbulb work in a lamp ?

I'm not going to 'test it' to find out. If I blow the original bulb testing it (after 90 years,) then no more 'original' bulb. I'll just leave it as is. Let the next guy plug it in. Whoever gets the drum after I'm gone will be getting the drum in the same condition (if not better) that I got it in.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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Floating heads : None of the hoops or headrings come into contact with the shell. The shell is made smaller or hoops larger, to prevent that. The headring is the same size as the hoop to prevent that. Only the head is stretched over the edges. There is no ...'tight fit" !i

Your seller didn`t know what he had, a lot of members here do. The minute changes are helpful in nailing down the year of production along with the engraving details in this case.

For instance:

Your bed crimp looks long and shallow, and not sharp and deep like others I`ve seen here. At least it appears that way from the pics.

For the life of me, I can`t tell if yours is black Nickle inside and out because frankly, this pic. sucks. Is it ?

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It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

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Posted on 11 years ago
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I don`t mean to sound like a d*ck but a "Holy Grail...Rare Snare" isn`t ..."eye candy" if all we are able to see is distant glimpses at night !i

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 11 years ago
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