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Rudiments in Rock Songs Last viewed: 52 minutes ago

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I watch a lot of the instructional videos on rudiments and I practice

them as well.

I play in a bues/rock band, but find myself

mainly using single stroke rolls and triplets, at least conciously.

Can anyone show some examples of rock/pop drummers using

other rudiments? Thanks.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Mitch Mitchell in Manic Depression uses 'Swiss style LLR triplets' throughout.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNU4IuXeGMY"]The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Manic Depression - YouTube[/ame]

Steve Gadd is Mr. Paradiddle! That man can do more with paradiddles than most!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bevo6S5bkaE"]Steve Gadd - (Gadd Paradiddle slow motion) - YouTube[/ame]

John

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Among other things, you need a working knowledge of paradiddles if you want to play certain Bonham parts well (and get to a crash with your strong hand).

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Posted on 11 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

Mitch Mitchell in Manic Depression uses 'Swiss triplets' throughout. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Manic Depression - YouTubeJohn

From the Swiss triplets I've learned, I don't hear the "flam" of the triplet in this song. Where exactly is the triplet heard in this song? I hear a lot of syncopation going on, but I don't hear the Swiss triplet...

Its better to have people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and prove them wrong, unless you doubt yourself then speak away....
Posted on 11 years ago
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From backbeatkeeper

From the Swiss triplets I've learned, I don't hear the "flam" of the triplet in this song. Where exactly is the triplet heard in this song? I hear a lot of syncopation going on, but I don't hear the Swiss triplet...

Swiss triplet: either; llR or rrL. The double is on the rack tom with the 3rd note (right hand) on the cymbal w/the bass drum following the right hand. I've played in three Hendrix/SRV cover bands, I can play this number in my sleep. Watch a video of Mitch playing it. The left, left, Right swiss triplet is used throughout.

I wish we were sitting across from each other with a drum kit. It's easier to show you what Im talking about than it is for me to describe it!

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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John...show it on YouTube :)

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Posted on 11 years ago
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From snurf

John...show it on YouTube :)

I don't have a working video cam. I'm trying to get the one I have up and running. The sound is terrible though. Makes drums sound like cardboard boxes. If I can get it going, I'll post up a clip. Manic Depression is one of those numbers where the drum part sounds good all by itself, even without the guitar/bass. If I get the camera going I'll post up a link here.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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Here is a video by Drum magazine editor Andy Doerschuk He is playing the feel with triplets manic depression it is the 2nd video

, here is a swiss triplet video. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVzmB9ZKaqU"]How to play the swiss army triplet on drum set as fill - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8nAwVnqX24"]How To Play "Manic Depression" On Drums - YouTube[/ame]

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
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From vintagemore2000

Here is a video by Drum magazine editor Andy Doerschuk He is playing the feel with triplets manic depression it is the 2nd video, here is a swiss triplet video. How to play the swiss army triplet on drum set as fill - YouTubeHow To Play "Manic Depression" On Drums - YouTube

Not what I'm talking about about -at all. Before commenting on a post, you need to actually read what is being discussed first. That swiss army triplet you posted has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

But thanks for the 'input' anyhow. No cigar though.

Again… I'm talking 'bare-bones' swiss triplet (for Mark's benefit that means… without the flam,) which is RRL or LLR.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

Not what I'm talking about about -at all. Before commenting on a post, you need to actually read what is being discussed first. That swiss army triplet you posted has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.But thanks for the 'input' anyhow. No cigar though.Again… I'm talking 'bare-bones' swiss triplet (for Mark's benefit that means… without the flam,) which is RRL or LLR. John

For your benefit I don't read your post. I was replying to another poster here but thanks all the same. But with your explanation, There seems to be at least not on the PASIC 40 essential rudiments a bare- bones swiss triplet? maybe you can show it to us somewhere in a rudiments book? Here are the 40 essential rudiments. From Pasic .http://www.pas.org/Learn/Rudiments/RudimentsOnline.aspx

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 11 years ago
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