Interesting.

If you ever put the snare up on You Tube ,I would be be interested seeing how the mechanism actually worked.

I see you have a Trixon(curious about that one too).

I'm a die hard SFT fan and would like to see it in action.

Indeed! I actually have BOTH 1967 Trixon/VOX snare drums that Buddy played while with Trixon/VOX for a mere 6 months in 1967. The 1967 5X14 Buddy Rich Metal Concert Model has the Trixon/VOX "Simple Snare Mechanism" as they called it, that the Fibes SFT prototype is a lot like in function. Both the Fibes prototype SFT and Trixon/VOX are snare "releases" in that they just relax the tension on the wires enough to gently drop away from the bottom head ... but barely ... enough where they don't rattle or bounce around though. The Fibes is much better built and a lot tougher, but the Trixon/VOX "SSM" certainly works! I'll attach a couple pics of the 1967 Trixon/VOX BRMCM so you can have a look at their design. Again though, the Fibes kills it in quality and precision. That said ...

... I know why you are a die hard fan of the Fibes SFT ... it's a fabulous throw! For those that may not know, the full production Fibes SFT, unlike the prototype SFT, features pre-tensioned wires which are raised and lowered under constant tension... like a Dynasonic, but without the frame. It's a great design/system ... and a lot simpler than the Rogers Dynasonic. That's one of the reasons Buddy coveted the Fibes 690 COF snare drums with the SFT strainer. Extremely articulate snare drums all the way out to the edge, and with no choking under any volume/impact level.

Sure! I could do a video demo of the prototype SFT to show it's design and function. Let me see what I can do when I get a minute. Won't be difficult at all!

Tommyp

Yes,I love that throw ,I have 7 with the SFT 690 if I hadn't mentioned it.

3 Fibes fiberglass,one Austin 13 inch Fibes ,one custom Garcia drums w/ SFT 690,one Cannon and one Corder.

Simple and very effective.

I cannot see why other drum companies don't copy it.

The patent has got to be on it's last legs if it was ever patented.

GREAT collection! ... especially so the 3 original fiberglass models! I have three original Fibes SFT 690 COF snare drums myself: a 1966/67 with 8 lugs ... 1967/68, one of the first 10 lug models... and a 1973, then under CFMartin ownership of course, but still with Bob Grauso on board. Agreed ... GREAT action/function with the full production SFT. It was indeed an excellent design!

Tommyp

Tommy

I guess I should ask the obvious question: would you have any of the fabricated swivel lugs available?

Cheers!

Dave

Hey Dave!

Can you take a pic or two of EXACTLY the part/parts you need? I really need to see it/them as something may be lost in the naming/translation of the part/parts. We shall proceed from there!

Tommyp

Here you go Tommy.

The official Fibes part number is listed as: Swivel nut R100 1T

The photo on the left is the part I'm trying to get. It allows the tension rod to secure the butt plate to the bottom of the snare lug.

Apparently only 2 of the snare lugs holding the butt plate had these outer threads.

It's also pictured in the upper left on the photo on the right.

Dave

Dave!

Ah ... so do you have all the hex nuts that thread onto those? Interestingly, I had ALL the threaded inserts!, but was missing the hex nuts ... two of 'em. I had the hex nuts made. So ... that being said, here's what I would try: Locate some tension rod inserts from one of the drum suppliers out there... little taller if possible ... and have a machine shop cut threads on the outside to accept the hex nuts. Thing is, If you're going to do that, I would have them threaded in a STANDARD thread size so you can always get parts. Fibes used a bizarre thread size, which matches up to ... nothing! Or ...

... a machine shop can create the entire piece pretty easily using one of yours as the model. That might be the better route as aren't most all those standard tension rod lug inserts chromed? I believe they are ... and THAT creates a small problem as chrome plating is HARD, and can't really be machined ... easily anyway. In the interim...

... I have a few Fibes contacts as I have rebuilt more than a few! Let me see if I can find a couple of these for you ... or do you just need one?

Tommyp

Tommy,

I do NOT have the jam/hex nuts, just the stripped swivel lugs.

I would be looking for 2 swivel nuts with hex nuts.

I was planning on either taking the existing fibes swivel nuts or a new set of tension rod inserts of to a machine shop and ask the if they can thread STANDARD threads.

If I ever become the Emperor of the world, there will be SEVERE penalties for proprietary tooling!!!

Thanks for your help Tommy!

Dave

Try buying an older Premier set or Hayman vibrasonic.

Metric threads.