by the way:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDQyKK5AX0s"]Steve Maxwell Vintage Drums - (Earl Palmer's Custom Made 3x13" Blaemire Snare Drum - 10/07/13) - YouTube[/ame]

Didn't know this.....good info

I recall seeing one of these shells before. My personal opinion is it's not a Blaemire shell. I think it may be an early Fibes shell. Wish I could ask Jerry. :-(

Greg - Jinx was the one that told me about the early Blaemires. The pink color didn't throw me off. The reason why I think it's one of Allen's early ones is the construction and finish. I don't recall ever seeing a Fibes drum that looked like this one. The missing label is the kicker and the only reason to entertain doubt, otherwise, it looks just like one of Allen's shells.

What a painful reminder that Jinxy is gone... he could settle this mystery in a minute. R.I.P. buddy.

John

I remember seeing a shell like this, with the random red threading. The first Fibes shells were spun fiberglass. I'm doing some searching as I post this.

Thanks Greg,

I am interested in what it might be.

Scott/Greg - I don't know a whole lot about Fibes drums. Did Fibes ever make a kit with raw spun FB shells like this one? If they did, I've never seen one.

John

Hey John,

Interesting shell.

The Fibes FG shells I have seen look like they were blown by gun into a mold.

Kind of rough on the inside. Like a boat.

Shredded cloth and glass mixed.

Some had a flanged, rolled over edge.

That was tricky mold work.

Did not know about the spun FG.

I always remembered Fibes for the Billy Cobham acrylic kit.

Here is another Blaemire color in pic.

Amber with early X roving. I think circa 1969.

Scott - My drums are from 1971. I wonder if Allen was still using the same technique (X roving) when he made my tubs?! How can I tell the difference just by looking/by sight?

Jinx would have cleared this debate up in a hot second... there's a huge hole/gap in our collective data base now only because Jinxy is gone. He was our go-to guy regarding -anything- fiberglass. All that knowledge went with him.

John

Jinx would have cleared this debate up in a hot second... there's a huge hole/gap in our collective data base now only because Jinxy is gone. He was our go-to guy regarding -anything- fiberglass. All that knowledge went with him.

John[/QUOTE]

Absolutely, I miss him for so many reasons.

John, I have never seen a pic of the insides of your shells.

Please show us a pic.

Are they painted black?

Be brave and take some lacquer thinner to the paint in a spot and lets see some green........or pink?.........or amber....or candy cane?

Green shells typically did not have X roving.

They were later and Allen had decided on no more X.

On Green Shells, some mesh cloth can be seen where the joint/meeting line was on the steel mandrel/sheets he used.

The rest was string type roving. Winding.........and winding.

Oh and dipping/coating too.

Ambers typically did have the X.