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identification ludwig piccolo snare
Posts: 9 Threads: 1

Here are some more pictures of the drum for you, I assembled the drum for a complete picture as well as some other pictures.

I notice the shell on the snare side has a slight inward curve to it where the snares would go (Pictures below). Does anyone else who owns a Blaemire have that on their shell as well? Also the tension rods bend outward for some reason, could that be its supposed to have a double flanged hoop?

Let me know if y'all have any more pictures you want and thank you for your continuing help.

-Jake

Posted on 9 years ago
#31
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From JakeDeRummer

Here are some more pictures of the drum for you, I assembled the drum for a complete picture as well as some other pictures.I notice the shell on the snare side has a slight inward curve to it where the snares would go (Pictures below). Does anyone else who owns a Blaemire have that on their shell as well? Also the tension rods bend outward for some reason, could that be its supposed to have a double flanged hoop?Let me know if y'all have any more pictures you want and thank you for your continuing help.-Jake

the inward curves are the snare beds which are normal on most snare drums. They allow the snare wires to make good flat contact with the head

Andrew

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Posted on 9 years ago
#32
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The condition of the rods is called "splay".

It is determined by the OD of the shell.

This shell is a little undersized.

Perhaps it was wrapped with a thick pearl making up the difference.

Double flanged or triple flanged rims will not make much difference regarding the splay as the set back is about the same.

To reduce splay:

Wrap the drum to increase OD. or

Pad/shim the lugs out. Sometimes gaskets are used for this purpose.

Or leave it alone. It is only a visual thing.

But I do understand about fixing "splay".

BLAEMIRE DRUMS
Thanks to Mr. Jerry Jenkins
Posted on 9 years ago
#33
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Here's a pic of an early Fibes snare, it is spun fiberglass. If you go to page 9 of this PDF, it talks about using filament winding.

[ame]http://www.drumarchive.com/fibes/Fibes_70.pdf[/ame]

Edit: The link works on my ipad, but not on my computer.

You can go to www.drumarchive.com

Then go to the first Fibes catalog (1970)

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"Failing to prepare, is preparing to fail". John Wooden

Blaemire / Jenkins-Martin drums.

http://www.jenkinsmartindrums.com/
Posted on 9 years ago
#34
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From green glass drum

Jinx would have cleared this debate up in a hot second... there's a huge hole/gap in our collective data base now only because Jinxy is gone. He was our go-to guy regarding -anything- fiberglass. All that knowledge went with him.John

Absolutely, I miss him for so many reasons.

John, I have never seen a pic of the insides of your shells.

Please show us a pic.

Are they painted black?

Be brave and take some lacquer thinner to the paint in a spot and lets see some green........or pink?.........or amber....or candy cane?

Green shells typically did not have X roving.

They were later and Allen had decided on no more X.

On Green Shells, some mesh cloth can be seen where the joint/meeting line was on the steel mandrel/sheets he used.

The rest was string type roving. Winding.........and winding.

Oh and dipping/coating too.

Ambers typically did have the X.[/QUOTE]

Oh man, I'm insulted! I did an entire thread on my Blaemires (with lots of pics,) that -you- participated in!

No more THC for you! Your short term memory is shot, bro! LOL

Just for you...

[IMG]http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n632/PurdieShuffle/bm1_zps6c098ade.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n632/PurdieShuffle/bm2_zps7eee236d.jpg[/IMG]

... and here's a shot of the snare that Jinxy made for me... CryBaby

[IMG]http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n632/PurdieShuffle/xmasinjuly2_zpsd60eaf02.jpg[/IMG]

Greg - I'm starting to think you're correct about it being a Fibes shell! Damn, if Jinx was around there would be no question about it.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 9 years ago
#35
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From Purdie Shuffle

Greg - I'm starting to think you're correct about it being a Fibes shell! Damn, if Jinx was around there would be no question about it.John

This is where I need to step up and try to organize all the Blaemire info that I've accumulated. I have a lot of organizing to do. I'm not saying I can replace Jerry, but I'm going to try and keep the history from fading away.

"Failing to prepare, is preparing to fail". John Wooden

Blaemire / Jenkins-Martin drums.

http://www.jenkinsmartindrums.com/
Posted on 9 years ago
#36
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Thanks a lot Greg. Good info.

Perhaps this is a Fibes shell.

Alan put a tag in every drum that I have seen.

Hard to imagine him letting one escape without the tag.

John, You Got Green Glass in there!

Alright!!

Had you seen the insides of these before?

That's right, Alan placed that tag on your drums with his own hands.

Pretty cool huh?

BLAEMIRE DRUMS
Thanks to Mr. Jerry Jenkins
Posted on 9 years ago
#37
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From mendozart

This is where I need to step up and try to organize all the Blaemire info that I've accumulated. I have a lot of organizing to do. I'm not saying I can replace Jerry, but I'm going to try and keep the history from fading away.

You're the perfect guy for the job! It would be a great tribute to both Jerry and Allen if you kept the tradition alive.

It would put a big smile on the drumjinx's face...

Scott - You're a pi$$er! You participated in my thread when I got my Blaemires, I was surprised when you asked me about pix. Yes, green glass! That's why I've been itching to strip off that black wrap and expose the natural green FB.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 9 years ago
#38
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Sorry John, I guess I forgot what they looked like.

You made it through Big Blue.

So.................. what about a Blaemire strip job?

You could do it.

BLAEMIRE DRUMS
Thanks to Mr. Jerry Jenkins
Posted on 9 years ago
#39
Posts: 9005 Threads: 266

From green glass drum

Sorry John, I guess I forgot what they looked like.You made it through Big Blue.So.................. what about a Blaemire strip job?You could do it.

I have to draw the line at working with fiberglass, just a bit above my pay grade. I have zero experience working with it. You want to do it? lol

Mikey - the (birthday) date stamp is in the bass drum!

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 9 years ago
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