Hey guys..Was just wondering if anyone has ever tried putting die cast hoops on a supraphonic snare drum and what the sonic differences
were, if any ? I would assume that tuning range is a lot more versatile ?
The Stewart Copeland signature snare combo of having a die cast top rim and triple flanged bottom seems pretty interesting, and i heard that that's what he did on his snare drum in the early days, which i believe was a Ludwig ? Just curious..
I purchased a 1970 5x14 Supraphonic some years back on eBay. Came with die-cast hoops top and bottom. Sounded great! However, the sound was towards the dry side, which is what I was looking for. Remember, the shell is aluminum, so it is already "dry" compared to steel or COB. I've since obtained the proper era-correct hoops for it, as I wanted to experience the original sound. Love that, too!
Mark
idrum4fun is right, it'll dry it out a bit and it'll make rim shots LOUDER! Easier tuning too with die-cast in general. Won't hurt the drum any. I've had several set-up that way and they were all excellent sounding snare drums.
John
idrum4fun is right, it'll dry it out a bit and it'll make rim shots LOUDER! Easier tuning too with die-cast in general. Won't hurt the drum any. I've had several set-up that way and they were all excellent sounding snare drums.John
Exactly! Just like John says, rim shots will kill! And yes, it was incredibly easy to tune, since the die-cast hoops don't flex. I believe the original hoops are about 1.6mm. Definitely NOT 2.3mm hoops!
Mark
idrum4fun is right, it'll dry it out a bit and it'll make rim shots LOUDER! Easier tuning too with die-cast in general. Won't hurt the drum any. I've had several set-up that way and they were all excellent sounding snare drums.John
+ 1 to John & Idrum4!!
Here's one of my babies....
Hmm..Well i guess the consensus is unanimous .. I want the true tone of the Supra, but i don't want to choke the drum either.. And louder rim shots ?. My guitar players will have my head !..Lol !.Was just curious cause a buddy of mine was selling a vintage die cast hoop for $25, and it seemed like a good deal and interesting concept..
Hmm..Well i guess the consensus is unanimous .. I want the true tone of the Supra, but i don't want to choke the drum either.. And louder rim shots ?. My guitar players will have my head !..Lol !.Was just curious cause a buddy of mine was selling a vintage die cast hoop for $25, and it seemed like a good deal and interesting concept..
Yes, the true tone of a Supra would be "as manufactured" by Ludwig. Adding other hoops, wires, etc, can only change it, depending on your needs. The beauty of the Supraphonic is that great sound is built in and your choice of "add-on" items is all up to you!
Mark
HB!Beautiful Supra! Die-cast hoops + Puresound Equalizer wires must make for one dry sounding Supra!Mark
Thanks Mark!!Cool1
Indeed, as you mention, "original" Supra sound must be consider all original hardware, as triple flange hoops, wires, etc.
In this particular case, I got more than 5 "Ludalloy" Supras (LM400), so I took the licence to alter "that typical sound" and be able to have a drier option.
Best regards!!
If your Supra has steel hoops, see if you can find some COB hoops. The Super Sensitive I just picked up has them and I think I can tell a slight difference. Also try some thicker steel triple flange hoops. Gretsch makes an updated "stick chopper" style called a 302 that's a cross between a triple flange and cast hoop. I'm not sure if it's available as a 10-lug. Steve Maxwell sells them.
-Tim
