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Super Clean Majestic! Calling Ralf!! Last viewed: 9 hours ago

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So I wasn't going to buy anything for awhile but saw these on CL and had to at least go see them. asking price was 150. and it included "vintage" Meinl cymbal and hats. Went to see them and they were Super clean! The pics are right out of my car and in my house. Haven't touched them except to set up. The floor tom is among the missing (the're like socks! Where do they go????) The cymbals aren't what I thought, the're "Meinl Ambico" (Camber)?? But believe it or not they sound awesome? Don't get it!! Also, is this the elusive triangle cymbal mount? So back to the story. We settle on 125. and as we're breaking it down the guy says "let me get the cases" and he brings out 3 brand new lined cases!! included in the 150.!!! These are the "no re-ring" grey interior painted, nice bearing edge Stars / Majestic. All drums have the original "Sound Master" heads top and bottom. Any info on the cymbals and cymbal mount is appreciated. Rich.

Meant to put this in "non U.S." does anyone know how to move it?

Posted on 11 years ago
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And here's the cases!

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WOW! Those a beautiful! Time capsule!

Yeah that is the ever so elusive triangle Star cymbal mount. As far as I know it has to be perhaps the most elusive and rare MIJ part there is. I know there are some out there, but I have seen many many more kits with this missing than not.

As far as the missing FT - the explanation is likely as simple as....there never was one. It was not uncommon for MIJ stencil kits to not include these. I know - strange. That's just the way it is. The good news - is that yours may be a bit easier to find/build as you can easily re-wrap it to match. This is not always the case as we all know.

I restored one and it also had the original 8-lug wood snare. You get that tuned up right and it sounds killer.

I have some of those Sound Master heads too - lightly used. Not sure how I will use them. Those are the original heads I understand.

Great deal - with the cases too! Killer pedals and HH stand too! The whole package - love the flat based hardware too! I have a collection / set of these as well and they really look sharp on a vintage kit like these.

Enjoy! We will be on the lookout for a FT.

....and I am sure Ralf will want a copy of this pic for his website. It is very good reference - I know I have seen something helpful to me.

John, self professed MIJ thrillhog

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
Posted on 11 years ago
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Drummerjohn333, Don't know how to add pics to a PM but here's a few, not to good with the camera that I have..Rich.

Posted on 11 years ago
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I've read that these Meinl-Ambico/Cambers have a unique sound - thus if somebody wanted to get into them - they would be best served acquiring an entire set of them. Are these Nickel-Silver?

Do you have plans to try to acquire/build a FT? What are the sizes of these?

John

I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
Posted on 11 years ago
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Wait - what am I thinkin????? I can easily tell that what you have there is a 12,20,14sn

Great that you have the 8 lug BD. This model came in 6 lug as well.

John

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I had a great day! Instead of sleeping in and wasting the day, I got up at 8 and I had all my slacking done by noon!

2Timothy1:7
Posted on 11 years ago
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From Drummerjohn333

Wait - what am I thinkin????? I can easily tell that what you have there is a 12,20,14snGreat that you have the 8 lug BD. This model came in 6 lug as well. John

12/20/14 is correct. As far as the make up of the cymbals, I'm not sure. The hats couldn't sound better! The ride surprisingly has a nice jazz sound.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Nice find!

Great looking drums!

One thing about finding a matching FT -- if/when you find ANY Majestic FT, it would be easy to match the plain black wrap!

Bill

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(also "billnvick" on eBay)
Posted on 11 years ago
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Hi richm,

Another great story which we all hope we may can tell one day, too ...

Drummerjohn333 already said it all:

From Drummerjohn333

WOW! Those a beautiful! Time capsule! Yeah that is the ever so elusive triangle Star cymbal mount. As far as I know it has to be perhaps the most elusive and rare MIJ part there is. I know there are some out there, but I have seen many many more kits with this missing than not. As far as the missing FT - the explanation is likely as simple as....there never was one. It was not uncommon for MIJ stencil kits to not include these. I know - strange. That's just the way it is. The good news - is that yours may be a bit easier to find/build as you can easily re-wrap it to match. This is not always the case as we all know. I restored one and it also had the original 8-lug wood snare. You get that tuned up right and it sounds killer. I have some of those Sound Master heads too - lightly used. Not sure how I will use them. Those are the original heads I understand. Great deal - with the cases too! Killer pedals and HH stand too! The whole package - love the flat based hardware too! I have a collection / set of these as well and they really look sharp on a vintage kit like these. Enjoy! We will be on the lookout for a FT. ....and I am sure Ralf will want a copy of this pic for his website. It is very good reference - I know I have seen something helpful to me. John, self professed MIJ thrillhog

He knows me well: surely I'd love to have a pic of it for reference onto my website (please) ...

I just spoke with Meinl directly concerning your cymbals: back in those days Meinl exported three line of cymbals only: brass, nickel silver and B8 (bronze). You can see the differences easily, if you polish your cymbals: brass becomes yellow/ish, nickel silver is greyish-silver and B8 looks like we all know it.

The stamp on your cymbal/s may have been a distributor's order from the USA, it's not a special cymbal line of Meinl.

Ralf

Vintage STAR (= Pre-Tama) website: www.star-drums.de
Posted on 11 years ago
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