I have learned a lot about the older sling, ludwig, and gretsch kits, but i am still pretty uneducated in the Rogers world. I see many different Rogers models (e.g. Monitor, holiday, etc.), and each model seems to have a significant impact on value from one to the next... Can someone help layout which Rogers models are at the top and which are at the bottom, and what makes them different? All knowledge on this matter is helpful. Thanks for the time and insight!
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I thought for sure someone would pick this up by now.
So, in their absence, I will give it a go.
Names referred to both drums and snares.
Top of the line snare drum was the Dyna-Sonic. 1961-1984. The name was also used to refer to the top line marching drums, they all wore the "Custom Built Dyna-Sonic" badge, at least to 1975, when the oval badge was retired. For most purposes, when someone is referring to a Dyna-Sonic, the snare drum is intended, in either wood or COB.
The second snare drum was the Holiday, which in 1963 was replaced by the Powertone. As the Holiday, this drum had wide flat edges, flat deeper snare beds, and eight lugs. When the Powertone was introduced, the edges were the new profile, from the Dyna-Sonic, which quickly became and still are the industry standard. The double cut, 1/16 edge made Rogers so much better than any one else. The snare bed was longer, but very shallow. Eight double tension lugs, Swivomatic strainer slightly modified internally from that on the Dyna-Sonic, Dampener, and available in either a wood shell pearl finish or Chrome over brass double beaded shell with straight sides.
Century was an 8x15 Concert drum with twenty lugs, ten above and below, in lacquer, mahogany or pearl finish.
The Tower was the Powertones little brother, essentially the same drum, with Sta-tight strainer(very similar to the Swivomatic, but with a different face plate), less expensive butt plate, with or without a dampener, and a few dollars cheaper than the Powertone. Soundwise, it is the same drum, same shell, same quality.
Luxor, was a six lug drum of better quality, wood shell same as Powertone,
a less expensive throw off and butt plate. Still, six double tension lugs.
Student was a six lug double tension wood drum with single flange hoops and clips.
Banner, wood drum, six single tension lugs, hoop clips, single flange hoops. inexpensive throw off.
Gradually many of these models were phased out, and by the Dayton era, only the Luxor, Dyna-Sonic, Century, Tower, and Powertone were being produced.
Holiday was also the name given to the flagship series of drums. In the 60s these were the best American drums being produced by anyone.
Single tension tom lugs top and bottom. SIX lugs top and bottom on 12, 13. Eight lugs on14ft, 16ft, 18 toms and Bass drums, 20 BDs, ten lugs on 22 and 24 BDs.
Tower were the center placed double tension lugs, similar to the Clubdate. Number of lugs per drum went SIX for 12, 13, EIGHT for 14, 18, 20.
With the move to Fullerton in 69, Holiday was phased out as the name for drums replaced by Power Tone, and the Tower was retired.
In 1972, the Powertone snare drum was retired and replaced by a ten lug Chrome over Steel shell called the SuperTen.
Now I am exhausted. Others can fill in the holes, get the rest of the names up and hopefully clear up all the confusion I am sure to have caused.
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Excellent job Ploughman!
I've always wondered about this myself. Ludwig, Slingerland, and Gretsch only made one drum shell and used it universally. The outfit names only referred to the size and/or hardware configurations. Rogers had both the Holiday drums and the Powertones (or whatever it was). Did they have two different shell layups?
Same wood.
three ply jasper to aprox. 62
three ply keller to 64
five ply keller to 72
three ply keller to 75 Big R
five ply keller to 79 Big R
eight ply all maple keller no rings 79 Big R to the end 1984.
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yes, wonderful summation John; this forum benefits greatly from your generosity.
Jack: great summary. Anything else is icing. You got the cake.
Hugh
1967 Rogers Dynasonic in COB
Ploughman, thanks so much for all that great info! This was very helpful.
Holiday was also the name given to the flagship series of drums. Single tension tom lugs top and bottom. Eight lugs top and bottom on 12, 13, 14ft, 16ft. Eight lugs on 18 toms and Bass drums, 20 BDs, ten lugs on 22 and 24 BDs.
Thanks Ploughman for a great summation. It's Rogers history in a nutshell. I printed it for future reference, but when did 12" and 13" toms ever have eight lugs?
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