First off Ploughman, Thnak you very much for the kind words. I respect your research and attention to detail on your Rogers guides.

and as far as detail yes I do know that Mr. Thompsons family remembers their relative having hamburgers with miracle whip and katsup. lol.

That drum looks like a Rogers. I would guess 1957 because of the flat top lugs and tall hoops. The tall hoops were an option for the other model names as early as 57. The bottom hoop looks tall to me and the tension rod lip looked like the right profile. Better pics will help. Looks like an 8 lug double tension pearl model so it would of had a Holiday Model internal paper tag across from the grommet. Which does look like 2 pin holes on the sides for an eagle badge that would of been proper for it. I have a purple year later 1958 tom with the same gommet with 2 pin holes on the side for an eagle badge in the pearl but not through the shell-but no eagle bage. They nailed an early exterior script logo to that tom above the grommet. If that is the case here. The internal muffler looks Rogers flat to the top of the pad-proper. Doesn't look like there was a paper tag shadow across from the grommet. If not it was an employee slipped under the radar take home. Or sombody over the years steamed off the tag-but I do believe there would be some internal markings left of this. The interior looks consistent and proper for an early flat grey interior Rogers. More pics will help. Hope this didn't confuse further.

Flat top Rogers hollow brass lugs were used as early as 1954 through 1957.

Earliest example of an eagle badge I have seen is on a 1955 Holiday. I have not seen or heard about any eagle badges on 1954 Rogers drums.

added later-

Looking at the pictures further I wonder if the shell is a later early 60s shell that somebody took the older lugs home, because they were using that ridged top B+B lug with the Swivo change in 1958. Very few early swivo few examples exist with flat top lugs. If there is no internal paper tag, or ghost shadow of one then I say take home drum with factory parts used up. No 3 pin holes on a blank panel, for a script logo, would match the tag-less interior. That butt plate was used from the early 50s into the early 60s. Again more pics needed to be clearer. Be back on line tonight later.

thank you for taking time out to look into this drum.

are "take home" drums common?

i will definatly post more pictures tonight of the snares, butt plate, hoops, etc so we can figure out exactly what this thing is, If possible.

as far as the hoops, what you see is what i got.

i do not know if these are the original hoops or even snares attatched.

i have had this drum in my collection for at least 10 years and have never cared to look into it until recently.

im a Ludwig Guy so this Rogers stuff is out of my comfort zone.

i will be back tonight with more information and pictures!

You are very welcome. We can try to date things from the standard seen hardware characteristics. If it is what it looks like from the 2 pics shown I would say it is a Rogers shell with Rogers parts. A mix and match of era parts with no Rogers exterior badge logo and internal paper means somebody didn't want it to have a serial number.

Take home drums do pop up from time to time. Some times with internal paper tags. Sometimes with a logo badge exterior. If it is Rogers and makes you scratch your head then I like the game of trying to get a grasp on how that hapened? Or What is this mystrey drum? Curious if there are any (2)pin holes around the gromet or any where else on the shell(a series of 3 for staggered for a script logo).

home now. give me a few minutes to upload pictures

the drum...

upon inspection.

no extra holes anywhere to be found...

its 8 lug.

I have both top and bottom hoop

only mark I saw was on the inside of both lips where " M F" OR "W F" WAS STAMPED .....

With no Rogers name inside and out I'd chalk it up to a take home drum. Grossman wanted internal tags for a reason. That was the last step of the build. Another example of a logo-less "real" Rogers drum found with it's original tall hoops. The throw off is proper for that era of Rogers. It should be stamped "made In England" on the back if taken off the shell. Premier Olympic used then. That is the only thing that I'd question because the tension knob looks a bit thick. If apart please let us know.

The stamps in the re reings are also common for Rogers found from that era. 8 lug in pearl finish would of had a Tower or Holiday internal tag. Great drum! Congrats. So...Yes it is a Rogers drum.

thanks for the reply Gary!

no signs of tag inside. most of the grey is uniform in color. I looked for a patch that would be lighter than the rest but saw nothing. After reading your comment I removed the Throw which did reveal Made in England.

As for the tags were they made out of paper?

Thanks back for checking for the throw off stamp. All Rogers late 50s to early 60s "real" Rogers parts all around.

Yes the internal tags were glued in paper. If no exterior ghost of a badge is in the Rogers black diamond pearl finish then the interior would add up right to me that there never was an internal paper tag. But a drum will surface like that in due time too...I kinda like this stuff. Fun. Long day and late groggy. Good Rogers Night. Enjoy!