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I am about to defend the speed king although I use a first gen dw5000 turbo.

They DO still make them anymore.

You only need a flathead screwdriver to adjust the spring tension.

The odd angle is in fact the same as an off set cam or " floating action" pedal.

The speed king uses ball bearings. Just like the Camco/dw

Check out the side to side motion on your Camco sometime I'm sure it is as bad as my dw.

I'm not trying to convince you, just playing devils advocate.

And yes, people will always try to justify their purchases through others as wellas companies will always try to sell you new gimmicks on an old design (like DW).

Until last week I had not played a Speed King for a lot of years.. and I mean a lot.. Found an old one (late 60s) in a box stuffed with all manner of junk, at my son's place.

I volunteered to clean it up for him,, covered in grease and years of gunk and animal fur.. I scrubbed it with soapy water and dried it off.. no paint left on the base plate and severe elongated holes in the base plate with only about 3 MM of metal all around the pedal hinge pin of the footboard .. Anyhow could not resist setting it up on the kit... surprise.. surprise it was like putting on an old boot... He is not getting it back...

I need a metal base plate and footboard if any one has spares.. the heel plate is fine as is the complete goal/post bearing assy...

Cheers

Well I bought one recently following discussions on here earlier on this very thread.

I've used many makes of pedal over the years. I currently use DW 9000's for all styles and situations. I believe the 9000 is the best pedal for me that I've ever played. My old Pearl eliminators were very very close 2nd, and I did a session a few months back where I used a Tama IC that was at the studio that was also easy and dynamic to play and I would put into the same bracket. There is really not much in it between these pedals, its just the 9000 just edges it.

So to this Speedking pedal that was delivered to my home? Well it looks nice. But no way is this doing anything for me. I can't use it, the response when trying to do double strokes is poor. Drumming is my job, it's my life, this is no way up to what I need a pedal to do. I'm glad I tried it. I'll keep it for a while because I like looking at it. Maybe I'll sell it sometime.

DW, weather or not the design is however old have mastered the balance of the 9000's perfectly for me. I can do anything on them, and more importantly I trust them.

To each his own. But: Roy Haynes still used a Speedking when I saw him a year or two ago. If it's good enough for him, I guess it is good enough for anyone.

Drumming is not my job, but I kind of challenge the tone of your post.

/Magnus

Why? I don't get it. I bought one, experimented and found it doesn't suit me. I can't do what I want on it. It's a full on re-furbed Drumchanix one that cost me £150 by the time it passed through customs. I got off my rear and I went for it.

"If it's good enough for him............................" What were you thinking Magnus? That would put him in his place!!!

Scores of historic players have used Speedkings to great success. So have the other pedals been used by big names and great musicians. It just doesn't suit me. Why not be happy that I gave it a go?

Oh and while we are on it, I love Roy Haynes! I bet that gig was amazing Magnus.

Yeah, the gig was great. And I did not object to you not liking your Speedking. I've never tried one of those fancy refurbs, so I wouldn't know what they are like anyway.

I kind of objected to the way you phrased your not liking the SK: "Drumming is my job, it's my life, this is no way up to what I need a pedal to do." That kind of seemed to imply to me that anyone who uses an SK cannot have drumming as a job etc. I wasn't exactly thinking that my Roy Haynes anecdote would put you in your place. I just felt that you were trying to put anyone using a Speedking in their place, the way you phrased it.

Pedals are a matter of personal preference, I think. I have tried loads. I happen to like Speedkings best so far.

/Magnus

it has to be tuned and restored to ones specific needs don't discount it till you know how to use it!

Sorry bro. I hear you, no no that was not meant in that way. I meant to outline there is seriousness in my choices, and that right now this pedal isn't working out for me, and not just because I'm some sort of SK hater. I really have bought one and wanted it going on.

Anyway I'm going down the Roy Haynes route thanx to you and I've put it back on to my practice kit for now, and I'm going to live with it to see if I can break it in a bit. I know the mechanix guys re-lube the whole thing so it might just be a bit tight. I'm concerned that they replaced the footplate pin/axle with a long bolt in an attempt at fixing the squeak issue, but it seems to be coming loose. I'll keep you posted.