If ya get hungry you can have a slice while the guitarist tunes up

This just came to me, but along the same lines, why not use (or make) a marching drum projector? Some thin lexan would work nicely, and not detract from the 'look'...

(if you go with an opaque one it also hides when you don't get a break and wet yourself)LoLoLoLo

Mr. Vibes,

Love all those miked kits of yours.

Couldn't help noticing your "Oaklawn"? Camco Kit with 2 types of lugs front and back. Turret and somethin else.

How come?

Great miking tips.

If I had 1 mike, I would mike the Bass Drum and just hit the 6.5 metal snare tightened up with no muffling as hard as I could stand.

"Hey, could you guys just turn it down."

When I play with my duo, we always sound better when we play softer.

We can actually hear what we are doing and interact.

There is just more control over the whole sound.

I play better softer. I play less also.

It is like making REAL music.

My 2 cents

SA

I agree with Jim; if you can't mic the kit then I would not mic the snare. Two problems here.

1) when we play drums we are effectively creating a "mix" by default. There is an inherent balance between kick, snare, hat and toms. Now you will just have a louder snare.

2.) Since this is your own amp you will create the same problem that most guitar players have in clubs and that is, you will be slamming loud down the linear coverage zone of the amp and somewhat non-existent elsewhere. A well deployed and tuned PA should cover the entire audience. A single speaker cabinet will not.

By the way, when mic'ing a kit and only using a single snare mic, it should go on top. It is a more natural sound as most people don't listen to a snare drum whilst laying down underneath it. As mentioned, the bottom mic'd purpose is to accentuate the actual snare sound and is blended with the top mic. In most cases the top mic is doing the majority of the reinforcement.

Green Glass Drum, I had purchased my first Ludwig Hollywood set in 1971 from Jim Corder of Corder drums when he had a music store, and a few years later he gifted me the silver sparkle Chanute Camco shells minus hardware as he knew I had the silver sparkle Ludwigs. I put the Ludwig lugs on the batter side of the virgin bass drum and used it as a secondary back up kick for years live and in the studio. I also used the mini Ludwig lugs on the batter side of the Tom as the hole spacing was the same. About three or four years ago I purchased some round lugs from Billy Blast and put reso heads on both drums. Thats how they were in the pic. Last year forum member Roger Locke, I can't remember his forum name at the moment, gifted me Camco lugs for the Bass drum and Tom, and correct tension rods for the Bass drum and spur mounts. So the Tom is right and the bass drum just needs the correct spurs. But they sound fantastic. The floor Tom is a 1973 silver sparkle Gretsch Stop sign badge 16x16 I found on my local CL about three years ago. They are all about the same year and Jasper shells. Nice little Frankenkit I often use live. Funny how you sometimes come up with a odd configuration you really like.

If the band is playing so loud that you can't hear the drums, the first thing you should mic up is the bass drum... otherwise you lose a lot of pulse to the music, and nobody's shakin'.:2Cents:

J!m, vibes and tnsquint all make some excellent points! I tried miking my snare from the top again on Sunday night. My kick is also miced and the snare and bass are going through the P.A. I still didn't like my snare sound as much as when it was bottom-miced. Personal preference is a great factor as is tuning, size of room, type of music played etc. As tnsquint points out, most people don't listen to a snare while "laying down underneath it." So true but, with a good P.A. system I suppose they wouldn't have to. All I'm saying is that a musician should try things outside the box sometimes and play what sounds best to him.

In this situation, my statement would go something like this:

"If you guys don't want to turn down enough so the LOUD-@$$ drums can be heard, I'll just collect my pay and not bother setting my drums up for the next show. If you can't hear me, neither can anyone else.

Grow up and learn how a volume control works!"

Thanks Man, Glad those lugs got installed. Super nice kit.

SA

I've been recording drums for years and I used to always use 2 on top and one on the bottom.

When it came time to mix I would always end up pulling the bottom mic out.

Now I've quit even putting one under there.

It doesn't really add anything useful to the mix in my opinion. Chewie: