Blow this POS up to about 500%.......... and you can see it. And why cant I find the other threads concerning this drum? [IMG]http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44804&d=1340224503[/IMG]
POS,POS? Now this drum is only good for the fireplace.Toilet
LOL. I guess if the shoe fits, I may as well wear it, eh? Laughing HLaughing H
I won't address the obvious here as that's been done to death. Instead I will say this: cut snare beds on a Dynasonic ruin it as a Dynasonic. You don't have to know what a drum key is to have the freekin' sense to realize that. Dynasonics are special drums, and it's precisely the snare cage and mechanism and bed that MAKE it a Dynasonic. Two minutes in a Google search would give you that much. The fact that you're blowing this guy off and telling him "Be happy, it's still a great drum" is morally reprehensible. You owe this man a full refund and anything short of that is ... we all know what it is. You should be ashamed of yourself for taking this very immature path. Your comments here and on the other two threads are a beacon as to who you are as a seller. If anyone does business with you after this ... they deserve what they get. Shame on you.
Why do you suppose someone would have the snare beds cut in the first place? It's obvious to me, whoever did this did not like the sound and wanted a better snare response. I played the drum and it sounds fantastic. I've heard guys tell me that the Dynasonics were not as great as Rogers fanatics would have you believe. I've played metal Dynasonics and I tend to agree with them, a lot of rattling snares. I was always under the impression that what made the wood Dynosonics so pricey was that they are rare, not for the sound that they produce.
Why do you suppose someone would have the snare beds cut in the first place? It's obvious to me, whoever did this did not like the sound and wanted a better snare response. I played the drum and it sounds fantastic. I've heard guys tell me that the Dynasonics were not as great as Rogers fanatics would have you believe. I've played metal Dynasonics and I tend to agree with them, a lot of rattling snares. I was always under the impression that what made the wood Dynosonics so pricey was that they are rare, not for the sound that they produce.
Oh sure, everyone knows a Dynasonic sounds like broken mustard jars. Yes, it's the rarity alone that drives the price into the thousands. Sound and sensitivity would have nothing to do with it.
Dude, do you honestly believe the stuff you type?
You sold the guy a drum under the auspices of a good value. It has been shown quite clearly that it holds very little value due to the mutant modifications. Just do the right thing and work to give the man a full refund. Even with 900 for the snare, it's WAY too much to pay for a bastardized Powertone wannabe.
FULL REFUND. It's not rocket science. It is the ethical thing to do.
They produce a rare sound that is pricey, how's that?
Why do you suppose someone would have the snare beds cut in the first place? It's obvious to me, whoever did this did not like the sound and wanted a better snare response. I played the drum and it sounds fantastic. I've heard guys tell me that the Dynasonics were not as great as Rogers fanatics would have you believe. I've played metal Dynasonics and I tend to agree with them, a lot of rattling snares. I was always under the impression that what made the wood Dynosonics so pricey was that they are rare, not for the sound that they produce.
Dumbasses do Dumbass things. There is really no esplainin it. It is just the nature of what is. Like the woman who decided she didnt like her husband or his drums and took a sledgehammer to a perfect set of mid 60s Rogers in Pink Strata Pearl......... with matching Dynasonic. Or the guy who decided he did not like Swivomatic hardware and drilled out a perfect early beavertail Cleveland Rogers kit for Pearl tom mounts. Or the ..... it could go on forever. Everybody who plays vintage drums because thats what they like, or collects vintage drums, has a story about some dumbass thing done to a perfectly good drum.
Your drum is just another story of some dumbass thing done to a really good..... no ... great sounding drum that was... IS... admired for its rarity as well as its sound. I tend to pay more attention to things that concern Rogers drums than I do others... but I still notice some of the other "things" done to other vintage, and not so vintage,drums. 1920s Ludwig Black Beauty spraypainted, a 50 ply Ayotte Custom that had lugs ripped out of the shell from over tensioning, and a couple weeks ago, a very nice DW brass with every single insert pulled out of the lug casings by an idiot.
This whole deal ****es me off. And, especially after the PMs we exchanged after the first go round. I gave you a fair break and now I believe that was a mistake. Crappy pics might be due to the fact a person is technollodgically challenged, or they could be due to the lack of ethical fortitude in the person presenting something for sale. A bad attitude is often used to hide bad character. I am not accusing you of anything. Just stating the obvious. The sort of stuff anyone should know.
In 2003 I bought a set of drums from some fairly crappy pics. I paid the man a very fair price, actually, a low price, even for the time, for what I got. It was a great deal for me. The pics, not so great. This past week, after nearly ten years..... I had a conversation on the phone with that man that lasted over an hour. I expressed my continuing satisfaction with the drums, and thanked him again for the pleasure he put into my life through those drums. He had answered a want post I made for some rims. He had one of the sizes I needed, and while not sure it would be considered adequate by me, he sent it free of charge, and paid the shipping. I received it today, and it is spot on perfect.
Theres something to be said for honesty, integrity, honor.
And about the best advice I could give in regards to this would be.......
Never open a can of worms you cannot eat.
Dumbasses do Dumbass things. There is really no esplainin it. It is just the nature of what is. Like the woman who decided she didnt like her husband or his drums and took a sledgehammer to a perfect set of mid 60s Rogers in Pink Strata Pearl......... with matching Dynasonic. Or the guy who decided he did not like Swivomatic hardware and drilled out a perfect early beavertail Cleveland Rogers kit for Pearl tom mounts. Or the ..... it could go on forever. Everybody who plays vintage drums because thats what they like, or collects vintage drums, has a story about some dumbass thing done to a perfectly good drum. Your drum is just another story of some dumbass thing done to a really good..... no ... great sounding drum that was... IS... admired for its rarity as well as its sound. I tend to pay more attention to things that concern Rogers drums than I do others... but I still notice some of the other "things" done to other vintage, and not so vintage,drums. 1920s Ludwig Black Beauty spraypainted, a 50 ply Ayotte Custom that had lugs ripped out of the shell from over tensioning, and a couple weeks ago, a very nice DW brass with every single insert pulled out of the lug casings by an idiot. This whole deal ****es me off. And, especially after the PMs we exchanged after the first go round. I gave you a fair break and now I believe that was a mistake. Crappy pics might be due to the fact a person is technollodgically challenged, or they could be due to the lack of ethical fortitude in the person presenting something for sale. A bad attitude is often used to hide bad character. I am not accusing you of anything. Just stating the obvious. The sort of stuff anyone should know. In 2003 I bought a set of drums from some fairly crappy pics. I paid the man a very fair price, actually, a low price, even for the time, for what I got. It was a great deal for me. The pics, not so great. This past week, after nearly ten years..... I had a conversation on the phone with that man that lasted over an hour. I expressed my continuing satisfaction with the drums, and thanked him again for the pleasure he put into my life through those drums. He had answered a want post I made for some rims. He had one of the sizes I needed, and while not sure it would be considered adequate by me, he sent it free of charge, and paid the shipping. I received it today, and it is spot on perfect. Theres something to be said for honesty, integrity, honor. And about the best advice I could give in regards to this would be.......Never open a can of worms you cannot eat.
I get ****ed too when someone destroys a drum, but if someone just adds a different tom mount or cuts a bearing edge, I don't freak out, I say, ok, now I can get that still nice vintage drum at a fraction of the price. I look at the positive side, that's all I'm saying.
Wow JR, yer pretty good at skirting the issue.
When are you gonna make it right?
I've always had a policy of waiting to hear from a satisfied customer before spending any proceeds of a sale. You should have refunded his money. I wouldn't count on too many more sales on this site.
Cruisin while you shouldn't have to go this route, could you file a PayPal claim to get a refund? If that was the method of payment of course.
