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Help dating vintage BOP Ludwig set

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Trying to get a feel for the year on my vintage BOP Ludwig kit. Got these about a year ago. Interiors are not painted. Badges are keystone style with no serial. The bass tom mount is the center piece ala Hollywood style. The floor tom legs are straight down. Let me know if any other details might be needed. My guess is late 50s to early 60s, but really not sure when Ludwig started making black oyster wraps.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Probably '60-'63. They don't have transition badges do they?

I'm no guru, just a vintage drum junkie!

Psalm 150:5
1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
Posted on 13 years ago
#2
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Ahha....must be transition badge. It's the keystone with blue ink and Chicago, no serial...

Posted on 13 years ago
#3
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'58 to '59 officially. I imagine some showed up in '60 and later, though.

I'm no guru, just a vintage drum junkie!

Psalm 150:5
1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
Posted on 13 years ago
#4
Posts: 1132 Threads: 43

Very good period for drums, by the way. Ringo hadn't thrown the drum world into a frenzy yet. Quality control was higher pre-'64. It was still good after, but they started throwing drums together after Ringo and The Beatles caused a flood of young'uns to put in orders for music gear, and you can find various inconsistencies after that. But I am in no way trying to say they weren't any good after that. I traded a DW kit recently for my '67 Ludwigs - which have one or two not-so-perfect spots - and I am SO happy I did. I'm finally hearing tones from my drums that I've always had in my head. My old drum kits have cured me of wanting new ones...except for maybe one, or two. Cool Dude I'm rambling now...

I'm no guru, just a vintage drum junkie!

Psalm 150:5
1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
Posted on 13 years ago
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From SlingerLynn

Very good period for drums, by the way. Ringo hadn't thrown the drum world into a frenzy yet. Quality control was higher pre-'64. It was still good after, but they started throwing drums together after Ringo and The Beatles caused a flood of young'uns to put in orders for music gear, and you can find various inconsistencies after that. But I am in no way trying to say they weren't any good after that. I traded a DW kit recently for my '67 Ludwigs - which have some not-so-perfect things - and I am SO happy I did. I'm finally hearing tones from my drums that I've always had in my head. I'm rambling now...

Amen to that, Slinger! Pre-Ringo era Luddys are pretty darn good...and my '58's and '63's would have to agree!

- EMD
Posted on 13 years ago
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From ElMoonlightDrummer

Amen to that, Slinger! Pre-Ringo era Luddys are pretty darn good...and my '58's and '63's would have to agree!

Sweet. They sound awesome, I've gigged them two times so far...the bassist loved the sound and gave compliments. These are keepers.

Posted on 13 years ago
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yeah i have a transition badge kit dated may 1960 on all 3 drums so theres a lot of give and take in the dating with that badge.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Hey ADG! Can you post a pic? Jumping2 I'd love to see them...I'm sure others would like to see them too. Sounds like a real sweet kit! Cool Dude

I'm no guru, just a vintage drum junkie!

Psalm 150:5
1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
Posted on 13 years ago
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Here they are...enjoy!

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