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Show Us Your Downbeat

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There is currently a good thread going about a Downbeat kit and the subject of Downbeat snare drums came up. I recently acquired my first ever Downbeat snare drum and I am deeply impressed with it. This drum has it all including great feel/response and real sensitivity. Awesome woody tone and it has an authoritative crack and volume for such a shallow drum. It caught me by surprise. I figured it would sound like a J-Fest with no balls. Boy, was I wrong! This is an excellent snare drum. I'd really like to hear reviews of the drum from others who own, or have played one of these killer little snares. Please feel free to post photos of your drum along with your personal thoughts/review.

Here is a blurb on the history of the drum:

"The Ludwig Downbeat Snare Drum had a varied and short life in the history of the Ludwig Drum Company. But despite it's short life, this drum has a very interesting pedigree. The origins of this beauty really began with William Ludwig and his WFL company.

In the late 40's, Be-bop was the rage and drum companies scrambled to add endorsers to their rosters. Smaller diameter drums became very popular, perhaps as a counter balance to the big kits that were used during the height of the big band era. There were Be-bop big bands, but most of the bop ensembles at the time had fewer musicians and didn't require the volume that bigger drums provided, or at least, that was the thinking.

In the late 40's, William Ludwig signed Buddy Rich to be his top endorser. Slingerland had Gene Krupa and Bill felt that he needed Buddy to compete in the marketplace. Ludwig promptly "married" Buddy with the Be-bop phenomena and in 1949, the Buddy Rich Be-bop Snare Drum was offered in WFL catalogs. The drum came in two sizes, 3 x 13 and 4 x 14. In 1951, the name of the 4 x 14 was changed to the New Compacto Snare Drum. In 1956, the drum was dropped from the Ludwig line up completely.

But in 1960, the 4 x 14 you see pictured above reappeared in the Ludwig catalogs. Called the Downbeat model, this little cupcake delivered " the goods." In production until 1970, the Downbeat was surprisingly versatile despite its smaller size. The wood shell was composed of a 3 ply mahogany/poplar/mahogany mix. At the same time, the 3 x 13 reappeared as the Jazz Combo model. This model lasted until 1970 when it was replaced by the Ludwig Piccolo Drum ( See blog dated Nov. 30th).

This particular Downbeat is wrapped in the very desirable Black Oyster Pearl covering. This, of course, is the same finish that Ringo had on his Ludwig Super Classic kit. The wrap alone increases the value of this drum immensely. But regardless of the finish, the Downbeat Snare Drum remains one of the finest 4 x 14 drums money can buy.

The book on these 3 x 13 and 4 x 14 snare drums is "still open."

Here is a shot of mine! Black Galaxy sparkle! I'm really digging it.

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Show us your Downbeat! I'd love to see what's out there.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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I love my pink downbeat snare with cob hoops its my go to drum, that I have in my arsenal my supra is almost sterile by comparison/....

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April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 11 years ago
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Gary - Sweeeet! Is that one gold or champaign? Hard to tell in the photo.

I know what you mean. I was pleasantly surprised by how FAT it sounds. Because it's so thin, I thought it would sound anemic, but it doesn't, at all! Great snares.

Thanks for posting up the shot! Hopefully, we'll get to see a few more of these drums. There have to be at least a few of these knocking around the forum. Post up some shots please!

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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I had a blue sparkle 4x14 Transition keystone badge date stamped Aug. 31, 1960. When I got it, both heads were blown out, it was covered in manure, and, quite honestly, I almost threw it straight into the trash. My wife convinced me to at least try to clean it first. Surprisingly, it cleaned up rather nicely, the white painted interior looked amazingly perfect. I had it for a couple or three years and then sold it.

Now its memory stands tall in my list of regrets.

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Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 11 years ago
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Love mine. Best sounding snare I've ever heard. Had a guy in GC offer me $900 for it when I was in there getting some heads and lugs. Declined politely and went home to play the kit right away.

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This was a gift from my daughter two Christmas's ago. Its a pre-serial, very yellowed WMP.


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 11 years ago
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Wow! I -knew- there would be some real beauties out there! Thank you for posting.

Ploughman - I have a list of 'seller regret' drums a mile long! I am surprised that you let it go though, they are rare snare drums. Not a ton of them around and they sound excellent.

Jeff - How does yours sound? Were you surprised by the quality when you first played it? This little thing knocked my socks off. I'm really impressed with them.

Downbeat - Man, don't ever sell it unless you absolutely, positively have to! Great drums. Post up a shot of yours if you can.

Keep them coming please! I'm enjoying all the photos and stories.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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Here's my 1964 WMP Downbeat, which I sold last week. Loved the looks and the sound of the drum but sold the kit it went with some time ago.

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I know it hurt to sell it, but a man's gotta do what man's gotta do! Thanks for posting the photo, beautiful snare drum. WMP is so classy. Did somebody at VDF buy it? Maybe they can post a little review of it!

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 11 years ago
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From The Ploughman

I had a blue sparkle 4x14 Transition keystone badge date stamped Aug. 31, 1960. When I got it, both heads were blown out, it was covered in manure, and, quite honestly, I almost threw it straight into the trash. My wife convinced me to at least try to clean it first. Surprisingly, it cleaned up rather nicely, the white painted interior looked amazingly perfect. I had it for a couple or three years and then sold it. Now its memory stands tall in my list of regrets.[IMG]http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu169/ThePloughman/LudBlSp004_zps4ea6a793.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu169/ThePloughman/LudBlSp005_zpsda4c019e.jpg[/IMG]

Ploughman, that is a beauty! I really like blue sparkle.


Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 11 years ago
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