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Year span of Rogers Fullerton era drums?

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The name Powertone was used only on snare drums until 1970.

Starting in 1970-1 Powertone was used to describe kit drums as well as snares, and the Holiday name went away. The Powertone name was used until the 9/72 tags came in.

For a period of time there were Power Tone tags with the name in 2 words: the drums are the same, and I've never been sure whether it was a conscious decision to do so, or merely an anomaly that occurred when a supply of tags was ordered. There are also a series of tags with no border, some with a different color ink, etc. All of this occurred during only a 2 year period - and there were no changes to the drums.

The Fullerton era was 1969 until the end of the company in 1983. All of these name changes happened during the Fullerton era.

By the way, in the literature itself, the 'Powertone' model name was only used up until the 1970 catalog. The 1973 and 1976 catalog had no reference to the name except the page for the parade drums, which were available in Dynasonic and Powertone models.

But: the price sheets still referred to the basses and toms by the Powertone model name until 1978-9 when the XP8's came along.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From Mike T

1969 most likely on your drum they went to brown tags with powertone after that....

So a Holiday kit made in Fullerton is definitely built in '69 or earlier because in '70 they started making all the drums Powertone -or- could earlier due to drums that were brought to Fullerton from Ohio. Serial numbers like 23200, 20900 etc. are '69 correct???

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From kookadams

So a Holiday kit made in Fullerton is definitely built in '69 or earlier because in '70 they started making all the drums Powertone -or- could earlier due to drums that were brought to Fullerton from Ohio. Serial numbers like 23200, 20900 etc. are '69 correct???[email]joshthekook@gmail.com[/email]

Those numbers should make them from 1968. From the look of your kit, I'd say that's correct.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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If the tags say Fullerton, they were made in Fullerton, 1969 or later.

Posted on 12 years ago
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From troutstudio

Those numbers should make them from 1968. From the look of your kit, I'd say that's correct.

SO even tho theyre Fullertons those are serial numbers from 1968? So they were made in 68 and then brought to Fullerton and had those tags put on em??

Posted on 12 years ago
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Wanna sell um??

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From kookadams

SO even tho theyre Fullertons those are serial numbers from 1968? So they were made in 68 and then brought to Fullerton and had those tags put on em??

No. If the tags say Fullerton, they are from Fullerton, which means 1969 or later. Serial numbers were pre-printed on the tags when they came from the print shop.

Serial numbers are not an exact way to date drums, they can get you close but the build details, city name, etc are very important as well.

And you are right: in 1970 or so, the name went from Holiday to Powertone.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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From troutstudio

Patience grasshopper. The Rogers way often twists and turns . . . Actually, there are Powertone tags from Dayton from 1966-1969. Then there are Powertone tags from Fullerton from 1969. The tags are marked 'Dayton Ohio' and 'Fullerton, Calif', respectively. The font is different for the word 'Powertone' but the tag is very similar. The Dayton drums were assembled under difficult conditions because of the fire which destroyed the Covington plant.

Well, to be a little more specific: the only Powertone tags from Cleveland or Dayton were used on snares or marching drums, not kit drums. The Powertone name did not appear on kit drums until 1970+ as you said. The Holiday name was replaced because it sounded old-school, Powertone being more contemporary, and also to have all kit drums including the snares wearing the same name, except for the top-end Dynasonic.

Posted on 12 years ago
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So if they werent made in '69 they might've been made in '68 in ohio and then tagged in '69 prior to coming out??

Posted on 12 years ago
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The drums were tagged when finished, before the heads went on (obviously!) So, any completed drums that were moved to Ca before being shipped out would have had Dayton tags inside. So, as far as there being any Ohio-built drums with Fullerton tags, I would say none.

Having said that, I'm sure there were some drums built in Fullerton that had Dayton tags since they must have brought the Dayton tags with them along with everything else in the move to Ca. It was probably a while before they got around to having a supply of tags printed up with the Fullerton name on them, maybe a few weeks or even longer. So, there may have been a lot of Dayton-tagged drums that were actually built in Ca. It really doesn't matter in the end, the drums were the same and even many of the people in the new plant were the same and the machine tools were the same, having been brought out there as well.

1 - Ohio built w/Dayton tags

2 - Ca built w/Dayton tags

3 - Ca built w/Ca tags

Again, Fullerton tags did not exist until the move to Ca., in my opinion.

Posted on 12 years ago
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