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From what I see in your (dark!) photos... looks like a pretty "standard" 14x22, 9x13, and 16x16 set-up. That's not the Ludwig Standard tom mount, but appears to me to be most of the Classic double-tom mount. Can't tell if it's been added on later or not... are there extra "rail mount" holes on the BD? If not, it could be a "Hollywood" kit that's missing its 8x12.

Also, you might note that even with the keystone badges, it appears to have the curved spurs. IF those weren't added later (extra holes for folding spur mounts?) and are original equipment, I'd say the drums are probably from 1969.

Good luck with the purchase... is it reasonably priced?

Yes it does have rail mount holes. So this is a classic series ludwig? The serial numbers are 330, 331,331. So fromm what I have seen is it from 1966? What do you think this 3 piece might be worth? I may be able to get it for $500. Thanks so much for the info...I am kind of a vintage drum amateur!

Check out this link from the sister site:

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/images/ludwig_sets/super_classic/1967_super_classic.jpg

Sounds like it may be a Super Classic set that someone added the double tom mount and curved spurs. IF that is the case, unitentionally from a collector's standpoint the drums have been "de-valued."

They are still good drums, and if you're looking to buy them from a "player's" perspective, personally I don't think $500 for these drums sounds too bad.

But, look them over good first. As I mentioned earlier, the pictures are pretty dark -- they do seem to be in good shape, but it's really hard to tell. Look for other possible extra holes. Look for issues (cracks, scrapes, bubbles or wrinkles, faded places) in the wrap. In fact, IF the seller would allow, take a lug off and inspect the wrap under a lug. Is there a lot of rust and pitting in the chrome?

And, don't just rush off and take my word for it -- wait 'till some other members weigh in!

Again, good luck!

Looks like a super classic kit that has been altered.It started life with a single tom mounted on a rail consolette.It also has a cymbal mount bracket,which also makes it a super classic,as opposed to a hollywood model.The tom mount is the classic type,but not original to the drum,so there are extra holes.

Those drums should have a white interior with date stamps.The spurs were also modified with later model curved type,so the bass drum will have extra holes.The original spurs were the folding type.

Definately a players kit,and no longer in collectable condition.500 would be a good price if there are no other mods.People that do this stuff think they are "upgrading" these kits,but the opposite is actually true.By modifying the drums from other that factory original condition,they will lose about 30-50% of their value.You can't undrill holes..

Steve B

Thanks again for the info. No other modifications. It is dated September 1966. Shells are in good condition, wrap is in okay condition, with some scuffs and wear and tear. Definitely going to be used in my arsenal for recording, and an older, warm kit like this is what I am looking for. Just played them a bit, and they sound great! I am excited to have some vintage Ludwig's!

Steve,

I couldn't agree more.

However, back in the day I for one NEVER thought about the future vintage aspect of drums and their values. I've mentioned my early 70s Ludwig Rock Duo kit in Champagne Sparkle (that I bought new when in HS) several times in various threads. Since it was a double-bass kit, I added a shell mount Ludwig cymbal mount/tom mount to my "left" bass drum to accomodate the hoop-mount hihat bracket. Thought it was cool, looked more professional, AND it saved wear & tear on my BD hoop. In some venues, however, a double-bass kit was too much... so on my "right" bass drum I added a Ludwig rail mount -- yes drilling four holes in the other virgin bass drum. Made sense then. After all, at the time, it was strictly a "players" kit.

So... I guess when we find drums that haven't been "modified" or "upgraded" we really have found something special.

Just my two cents...

Your going to enjoy those drums. They are nice sounding. I was fortunate to get a set like that with no modifications recently and I just love mine.

I would be interested to see some better pics of that set . Especially the bass drum spurs and mounts.

That looks like a fair square deal to me. As long as everything stays put and sounds good.

At least it was modded with luddy hardware.

A lot of kits are modded with bulky hardware that kills the sound or visual vibe of a vintage kit.

Enjoy them.

I too was guilty back in the day of modifying at the time,not vintage drums,without thinking about the future,history and collectability.I added cymbal mounts to a bass drum,and refinished kits.DOH

If only we knew

Steve B