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Vintage Phil Collins Large KIT Last viewed: 1 day ago

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Hi,

New to forum and I was wondering if anyone here could do me a big favor. I am working on a project that requires reconstructing a drum kit (for sampling) that Phil C used when with GENESIS for the LAMB tour.

This was a very BIG KIT that included all kinds of percussion as part of the main kit as well as icing on the cake. He had 4 Timbales that he used as TOMS for example, in addition to his 2 RACK and 2 FLOOR toms.

I have photos but not the expertise to identify each drum kit piece by MFG and size/model.

Any help would be really appreciated. If you PM me, I can send you the photos to help in this quest.

Thanks in advance,

Jim

The Lamb Laid Down on MIDI
www.lldom.com
Posted on 13 years ago
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Phil Collins was using a Pearl set up model MXC on a rack and add PTE 3131 and PTE 1336 and Mark Quiniones timbales u can see that set up here on this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sA3rJXV4R4E

Posted on 13 years ago
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The pics I have show Phil playing a Premier kit with those timbs.

What Would You Do
Posted on 13 years ago
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From cuquito717

Phil Collins was using a Pearl set ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sA3rJXV4R4E

Don't you mean Chester? Phil is playing Gretsch in this video.

9x Slingerland New Rock 50N 12-13-16-22 with 170 (Super S-O-M) holder
• 1979 Oak
• 1978 Blakrome + 6.5x14 TDR SD
• 1977 Black Diamond Pearl + 5x14 SD (gold badge, Rapid strainer)
• 1976 Black Cordova
• 1975 Silver Sparkle + 5x14 SD (Rapid strainer)
• 1974 Chrome + 5x14 COB TDR and 6.5x14 COW Zoomatic SDs
• 1973 Purple Sparkle
• 1973 Phantom (clear)
• 1971 Walnut (gold badges) + 5x14 TDR SD
1x Rogers Powertone Londoner V 12-13-16-22
• 1972 Butcher Block + 1979 big R Dynasonic SD
Posted on 13 years ago
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From Jim_K

If you PM me, I can send you the photos to help in this quest.

Why not post here for all to see?

I have a couple of photos from the book, "Genesis Chapter and Verse."

In one black & white photo (page 147), he's playing a Premier kit (looks like a wood finish) with a clear Fibes snare. I'm guessing at the sizes of the drums I can see: 5x14 snare; 8x12 and 9x13 mounted toms; and 14x20 bass drum. I'm also guessing that the timbales are by Premier from looking at the lugs.

A color photo on pages 152-153 shows what looks to be the same kit, given a red tinge by the lighting. The bass drum head has a Premier logo. He's using a different snare: it looks black, but it could be a chrome drum in shadow. There's no way to detect the manufacturer. In this photo, he also has four temple blocks mounted over the mounted toms.

9x Slingerland New Rock 50N 12-13-16-22 with 170 (Super S-O-M) holder
• 1979 Oak
• 1978 Blakrome + 6.5x14 TDR SD
• 1977 Black Diamond Pearl + 5x14 SD (gold badge, Rapid strainer)
• 1976 Black Cordova
• 1975 Silver Sparkle + 5x14 SD (Rapid strainer)
• 1974 Chrome + 5x14 COB TDR and 6.5x14 COW Zoomatic SDs
• 1973 Purple Sparkle
• 1973 Phantom (clear)
• 1971 Walnut (gold badges) + 5x14 TDR SD
1x Rogers Powertone Londoner V 12-13-16-22
• 1972 Butcher Block + 1979 big R Dynasonic SD
Posted on 13 years ago
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I would love to post photo(s) here in the thread. But, I am technically challenged. If someone could walk me through the process, I would be very grateful. I have this issue in all the forums I frequent.

But, the info you fine folks are offering is very helpful. I knew that someone would know how to ID these kit pieces. If you ever need some ID'ing of vintage amps and guitars I would be your man. :-)

Thanks,

Jim

The Lamb Laid Down on MIDI
www.lldom.com
Posted on 13 years ago
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I'm testing my ability to upload what Jim sent me. Files seem kind of small.

I'll do the rest this evening.

[Attachment: http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44427&stc=1&d=1339424015]

9x Slingerland New Rock 50N 12-13-16-22 with 170 (Super S-O-M) holder
• 1979 Oak
• 1978 Blakrome + 6.5x14 TDR SD
• 1977 Black Diamond Pearl + 5x14 SD (gold badge, Rapid strainer)
• 1976 Black Cordova
• 1975 Silver Sparkle + 5x14 SD (Rapid strainer)
• 1974 Chrome + 5x14 COB TDR and 6.5x14 COW Zoomatic SDs
• 1973 Purple Sparkle
• 1973 Phantom (clear)
• 1971 Walnut (gold badges) + 5x14 TDR SD
1x Rogers Powertone Londoner V 12-13-16-22
• 1972 Butcher Block + 1979 big R Dynasonic SD
Posted on 13 years ago
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From al9000

I'm testing my ability to upload what Jim sent me. Files seem kind of small.I'll do the rest this evening.[Attachment: http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44427&stc=1&d=1339424015]

In that photo that's the Pearl set I mentioned MXC I got same set up in 2000 from Pearl.

Posted on 13 years ago
#8
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I set up a web page with the pictures in full resolution if you want to check these out....

I also made a fill in the blank template to easily communicate identified kit pieces.

Check it out and please help.

Thanks,

Jim

PS - WEB PAGE addy is :

http://www.lldom.com/LLDOM/ALAN.html

The Lamb Laid Down on MIDI
www.lldom.com
Posted on 13 years ago
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Posts: 527 Threads: 57

From Jim_K

I set up a web page with the pictures in full resolution if you want to check these out....I also made a fill in the blank template to easily communicate identified kit pieces.Check it out and please help.Thanks,JimPS - WEB PAGE addy is :http://www.lldom.com/LLDOM/ALAN.html

The timbales on those photos is a set of 1967-68 Slingerland set , and 1 Premier set the Pan timbales also look like Premier Models, not Pearl set thought to be originally. Other Set looks like a Gretsch drums and Rogers parts mix? Different photos not all same but timbales definitely are a set of Slingerland.

Posted on 13 years ago
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