Hard to be sure because they don't provide good closeup, but they do look like Celebrity kits. I think there is little doubt, however, that they are configured as a 22,13,16 kit and the snare looks like a COB Powertone.

Here the sizes are the same, but the mount layout seems to be different than a Celebrity would be - maybe a Swingtime. The nice thing about this video is that he's actually playing.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f09itrlXcic"]The Turtles Elenore 1968 - YouTube[/ame]

Did anyone notice the closed hi-hats where a splash cymbal would normally go?

Yes... I did notice! I've seen this video many times, because it's very cool! John's cymbal setup is very unconventional for the time period. Who would have ever thought to mount closed hats where a splash would be and have a splash on a cymbal extension above the right-side crash. Plus, John shows excellent showmanship and is a joy to watch! Can you tell I like the Turtles?!! LOL

Mark

Oh yeah that closed hi hat is his thing:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlGWekr-5Ic"]Johny Barbata Drum Instructional short - YouTube[/ame]

Yeah might not be a Celebrity but I agree on the sizes. I am going to shoot him an email and just ask!

You are right about the showmanship ID4F. I've noticed that time and time again. I also really dig onyx on Rogers drums, so blue onyx in that video looks superb. If anybody has other videos of the period showing guys playing Rogers drums in color, send them along.

Again, this is a great video given they are actually playing. I found a video of the Dave Clark V recently that is really funny because they were forced to play after the backing track failed. I had to do one video years ago where we were faking it to a backing track. Such nonsense. That is one reason the Beatles stuff is generally nice to watch because they were nearly always playing live here in the US.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTQf26sZxYw"]Dave Clark Five - backing tape failure - YouTube[/ame]

Perfect nourishment for the soul of a pop music junky like me. Gigged those super fills and licks a million times with my oldies band. Thanks for sharing. Thank God the Sullivan shows and few too others, acts had to play live....or at least sing over their studio tracks as is the case with the Turtles vids....E. Dean Heck band2

FYI there was a Classsic Drummer magazine article interview with Barbata a few years back worth reading. If you can't locate it let m know. i can dig it out.

He was one of my drum gods back in the day.Guys like him and Dino Danelli,weren't just great drummers,they were showman also,but didn't let the show get in the way of rock solid drumming..Thanks for posting that.The Turtles were a great band,and you also have to love Flo & Eddie.

Steve B

yup...just noticed it in one of the other vids..

great..!