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Just what is the problem with Rogers Big 'R' drums?

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From skapunk_edge

I kinda agree with the tubes on the Big R kits and badges being ugly but the tom holders themselves are really beautiful. The chrome on my XP-8 Hardware looks better then any kit I have and I absolutely love how the holders have that chromed out Big R riding on top. I actually think if they made the tube legs all chrome and the tom arms and post chrome it would have looked insanely good. Versus that dull grey futon tubing.

If the tube legs, post and arms are standard sizes, then I'm sure you could find chromed tubes to replace the dull grey pieces. The replacement pieces would probably be stronger too.

I have a line on a Big R kit 24/12/16. It's a strange beast, becuase each shell is a different style. Bass drum has grey/speckle interior w/re-rings, floor tom is just grey interior w/re-rings and the tom tom is an XP-8. The current owner disassembled them and removed the cracked Silver Mist wrap. All of the hardware is in a plastic tote (lugs, screws, mounts, legs).

Jammin Sam's has White Pearl Special starting at $169 for a 12×8, 13×9, 16×16, 22×14 piece kit. This would be a classy, but inexpensive wrap solution for these Big R kits.

-Tim

Posted on 11 years ago
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There is nothing wrong with the shells or the sound of Big R drums but the looks are IMO horrific when compared to the slim downed earlier versions , the hardware was a huge step down from swivomatic But it is sturdy and tough. the cutting costs hurt Rogers but the sound was still up there the beavertail lugs got cheap along with other hardware and the over all package just was not up to what I call Rogers heyday quality.

Now if you had never played Rogers drums before there was probably no problem but I played them from 1965 and I am sorry but no way could I sit behind something that hideous and be happy.... BUT if I was in the market for a players kit It would not bother me at all to get a set of big R and do some mods to them and rewrap them for my own pleasure or for gigging.

Posted on 11 years ago
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Welcome to the 1970's...

"The decade that taste forgot"

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 11 years ago
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From jccabinets

I love mine. Some of you know the kit I wrapped in KOA veneer. These drums sound amazing and are solid as a rock. They do not move while playing and have the best memriloc system of all. I do agree with the ugly badge, thats why I choose to install script badges instead of the bir r foil ones. SOme people may frown on that but heck, they are my drums.

Thats funny...

I got a 8 by 12 Dayton tom last summer that someone ripped the script logo off,and put a Big R badge over it..oh...and of course blasting a big hole for the Big R pipes to go in too....

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 11 years ago
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From blairndrums

Welcome to the 1970's..."The decade that taste forgot"

Amen bro... amen to that. I was there, living it! (no, I won't post pix... my kids still think it's hilarious to pull out the photo albums on holidays saying 'Dad, how could you...') LOL

fishwaltz
Posted on 11 years ago
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From vibes

Until I lucked up on my Londoner 5 set last year, I had never owned or played a Rogers kit. I may have set in a couple times in the early 90's on a friends set. I was aware of them in the early 70's and of course read and learned more about them here, so when I ran up on mine via CL and saw them in person, I knew they were quality drums. Once I got them home, cleaned them up and got some Ambassadors on them I was amazed at the tone quality. I was rotating them out regularly on gigs and they performed excellently. They guys in the band were like, wow man, those sound great. Even though mine are the plain and un exciting silver mist / metallic wrap they don't look that bad under lights or outside.They actually give off a nice hue in some circumstances like this shot by a pool on the ocean. I can live with the big spurs and R badge even though they aren't the prettiest girl at the dance. I was just using them as a four piece set up that day. The floor tom wrap split on me one night when I left it in the car in 45 degree weather. Must have contracted in the cold after being used to the hot weather here. I am leaving them for now since the split is in back and no one will really see it. If any of the other drums do that and they start looking bad I will probably rewrap them in something nice. They are really great drums. I got mine really cheap.

Nice setup. Checking out your miking. I see you sing, like me. So you've also got kick snare and overheads? Do you take those, or someone else in the band, or do you have a sound guy? Currently just sorting all this out in my main band. So that would be 5 channels for you; just wondering how big is your regular desk? Thanks.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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The finishes on the Memriloc kits are a major problem: they do not evoke any nostalgia in most people interested in vintage drums. And the cracking problems on some of them don't help.

Mainly though, it's the lack of Swivo hardware that puts buyers off. For most of them, these are simply not 'collectible' drums. The Swivomatic hardware recalls an earlier time, back to the 50's in fact, and that is where the appeal of vintage Rogers is strongest. The mid 70's does not seem so long ago to many folks, and the 80's?, well, that was just yesterday...

For someone who wants to gig a lot with vintage drums, the Memriloc stuff is a great way to go.

Posted on 11 years ago
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If the Big R shells are the kind of quality one would expect from Rogers, then those kits are probably great deals.

As has been mentioned, I really felt the Big R badge was horrible, even as a young kid. The heavy hardware was the first of it's kind and imitated by Pearl and somewhat later Ludwig. The idea of memory locks was very cool and much nicer than hose clamps. Keep in mind that most hardware to that point, with their own being an exception, was pretty horrible. Stripped parts, failing pieces, not good. Drummers were starting to play harder and needed some help. Rogers answered the call. I will say I never understood the gigantic vertical mount on the toms. That is certainly an eye sore in my book.

When you consider all that, purchasing a Big R kit for small bucks, doing a re-finish, and possibly filling the holes to skip the hardware if you don't like it could produce a really great kit. Look at that KOA kit Jccabinets created. That is a better kit now than when it left the factory.

tnsquint
Very proud owner of a new Blaemire Snare 6.5 x 14 made by Jerry Jenkins "Drumjinx"
Posted on 11 years ago
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The shells are that good.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 11 years ago
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From The Ploughman

The shells are that good.

Then it sounds like that may be one of the great deals in the later vintage market if one were so inclined. Thanks Ploughman.

tnsquint
Very proud owner of a new Blaemire Snare 6.5 x 14 made by Jerry Jenkins "Drumjinx"
Posted on 11 years ago
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