I agree. Nice kit. Rogers did black the right way. Classy.

Yes Dan, 14"x24" Bass drum. The black makes it not look as big as my other 24" bass drums. The set had been neglected and was filthy when I got it for a steal. I am super happy with it now. Here is my clean up / resto thread on it. Just found it the first of this month on CL. I had never used 24" bass a lot until the last couple of years when I found a Premier kit that had a 24", now I have 4 kits with 24" basses. I am 6' 2 1/2" tall and about 190lbs so I don't dwarf the 24", 16" 13" set ups Like when I use my Sonor Safari's. 16" bass, 10", 14" toms. Dsansone , if you can get those drums at a good price you will not be sorry. You can see how much we love these Rogers kits. My 5 ply Big R Rogers are solid as a rock and sound great too.

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Vibes,

Are you missing the bass hoop inlays or are those black/Ebony inlays? The only reason I ask is that Rogers always put Silver Glass inlays on Fullerton Script black basses except in 1975 (just before the Big R transition) when they went with black inlays. Just curious.

Mike

One hoop was missing and I had a spare 24" hoop, but the one hoop on them did have a black matching inlay. I have a black inlay for the spare hoop I had too. Just haven't cleaned and put them on yet. So I guess my kit is 1975. I am very confident My shells are 3 ply. Maybe left over's ? Or was this the time Fullertons were 3 ply ? My Big R kits shells seem thicker, or,, here are both. Script left, big r, right.

Big R five ply. 9/72 era, or the most of it, three ply. It is in the 1973 catalog... three ply shells.

The idea that Rogers quality went south in 1975 has long been touted by some who preferred Swivomatic hardware. Same as many condemn the Dyna-Sonic bottom hoop of the Big R era as a step down, which it wasn't either Big R or a step down. Or all the ads you see for speckled gray interior Swivomatic era drums as being "pre CBS." Meaning Big R was after CBS bought Rogers and that was the change. The myths often prevail.

Just for the record, I love Swivomatic hardware and have a ton of money invested in 3 mid 60s sets with Rogers stands to go with. And a couple hundred in an XP8 orphan kit reworked for Swivomatic.

Well said, Ploughman. The biggest myth of all is that the earliest Rogers series (Clevelands) were the best drums Rogers ever produced, and everything went downhill from there. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have examples of Clevelands, Daytons, Fullertons, and Big R's in my basement, and Rogers only improved over time (even though cost-savings moves weakened some hardware components). I have an early 3-ply 22" Cleveland bass with crudely finished rerings and rough, splintered drilling around the spur collets. And don't even try to defend those B&B lugs. Quality only improved from that point, and the Big R stuff is still better than a lot of what is being sold new today.

And maybe the Memriloc hardware appears bulky and ugly to those of us who are partial to the graceful, svelt Swivo hardware, but it's hard to argue that the Memriloc hardware isn't superior to the Swivo. Its stability is rock solid. Rogers never "went South" until the name was sold to you-know-who.

Mike