But $13,000 worth of amazing? I'll put any $1,000 Rogers or Ludwig kit up against it any day! Look, what's so wrong about voicing opinions on outrageous prices for a set of drums? If someone wants to spend that kind of money on a kit, that's certainly their perogative, but to me, it's just plain insanity and my wife agrees.Kiss

I totally agree..Whether drums are extremely rare, in mint condition, or just plain beautiful sounding and looking, it's absurd to ask for that much coin for something that probably cost $200 to manufacture back in the day, and considering most people don't even have that much in their life savings account.. Yes, if you've can spare the change, then it's cool, but to me personally, the statistical reality of the current economic instability effecting so many people, with so much unemployment, and people living paycheck to paycheck, or on food stamps, makes me ponder this reality. Drums aren't worth that much..This is just my humble opinion.. With that being said, even though not my cup of tea, it's definitely a really nice kit, and this is coming from die hard Ludwig man ! ;))

I have been monitoring vintage rare drum prices for approx. 20 years.... at first I thought it was crazy but had I purchased every Dynasonic , Gretsch Bop kit and everything Camco back then I would have been a multimillionaire . Not only are these instruments fine Musical items but they are rare and obviously in demand,and frankly out of the financial reach and understanding of most of you (as per your statements).... these instruments are not only functional in a very high degree but unlike a set of new drums they have an appreciation value equal or better then most stocks on the stock market.... you see all you who are naysayers there are people out there who see this $13,000 drum set as an investment that will diversify their portfolios ...yes granted there no guarantees but if I have to take risks in investments I would rather invest in a totally TAX FREE device that not only has aesthetic beauty and function but as a bonus has the potential to hit a much higher value...... 10 years ago most of us would have said ...a gretsch Bop set for 6k....Crazy until they hit 7k,8k,9k,10k, etc....lets see who is laughing in five years ...remember this set is an exception IT IS A THOROUGHBRED among hundreds of not SO uncommon vintage drum sets.... REMEMBER THAT! THATS WHAT SEPERATES THE REAL GAINERS FROM THOSE THAT WILL OFFER MARGINAL RETURN....I WOULD RATHER HAVE THIS ONE KIT THEN HAVE 7 60S GRETSCH 22,13,16S... THIS IS THE ONE .....THE GRAIL!

I wonder when folks will finally realize - a thing is worth what someone will pay for it, every time, end of story.

Mitch

"Not only are these instruments fine Musical items but they are rare and obviously in demand,and frankly out of the financial reach and understanding of most of you.."

So i guess insulting most of the drummers here with years of experience just as you have is justified for stating their opinions to the contrary of yours ? Hmm. Last i checked , it's forum that is open to debate, discussion, and opinion.. All of what you stated is irrelevant to the main focus of what I and johnnyringo are saying.. Even if you have the money to afford it, it doesn't negate the fact the price is outrageous to some, and decent to others...It's called economics, and material things that cost peanuts to manufacture shouldn't have to cost half of a mortgage down payment.. You certainly have your opinion, as do others,

so please REMEMBER THAT the next time you attempt to create animosity on a usually civil forum..Your comment comes off as disrespectful to all others who have a different opinion than yours.. As far as your comment on this type of an investment having more of an appreciation than most stocks on the stock market, well, that may be true, until the entire economy suffers, which means the work place suffers, which means drummers or collectors who invest are also affected, and that's simple economics 101..Please don't take my comment towards you as hostile or offensive, because it's not my intention.. All i'm saying is, we should all respect each other on this forum, whether someone agrees with you or not..

Peace.

I have not in any way been disrespectful....i restate the notions of some of this group and show another side..... To help you see what i mean there are those who race dirt track on weekends and then there is the grand prix.... There is no slander in my words ,again i mean no disrespect to this forum and its members but the truth is as i feel fairly stated by me....this set is one that will probably not be seen again in this condition....when worn versions of this set command 8-10k why shouldnt a pristine set not be worth 13k

Worth every penny!! This one no I am after a Ringo kit next.

Thanks airborne...(when I see your list of drum sets I know you understand my point )I am not trying to insult anyone but rather present my ideas on respective values....would anyone here turn down a pristine 64 stratocaster for 13k??? You would be crazy to !

I would or I'd be sleeping in the car! Like I said before, even if I had the funds, I would never fork over $13,500 for any kit unless it was owned by a famous drummer, like Buddy. I don't think your logic makes sense, at that outragious price, there's no room for a substantial profit, unless possibly, it's still in your family in 50 years. No, I think that kit will go to a collector who doesn't care if he ever makes a profit and will just show it off to his adoring fans.

In my opinion, being rare and in pristine condition doesn't qualify a kit to be the "Holy Grail". No, I'd only use that term for Ringos black oyster pearl kit, in any condition.

What a Wowser outfit.....I'm hoping, and quite sure, the "owner to be" will be very pleased !!

Sleepy57, as for the "Not only are these instruments fine Musical items but they are rare and obviously in demand, and frankly out of the financial reach and understanding of most of you.." remark in post #13 of the thread........ there's probably a better choice of words that could have been used there.....fairly offensive to be perceived as talking down from a piece of geography carved out a bit "higher up on the hill", shall we say...??

Anyhow, that's my two cents.....that and a buck-fifty will get you a medium sized cup 'o joe at the local convenience store......:):)