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Camco 99 Super / Parallel Strainer Help Last viewed: 10 seconds ago

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Talk about being on an island by yourself. I've tried scouring the interwebz for information on Camco's No. 99 Super / Parallel strainer contraption but there's not much out there.

Calling (DolFan54) Steve! I assume you are familiar with how this think is constructed. My drum is an early Oaklawn Aristocrat model, but the parallel strainer mechanisms are Tuxedos (I think I've got that right). I've been sitting on this drum for 3 months debating how far I wanted to go with cleaning her up because i had a feeling reassembly was going to be a science project. I pretty much wasted an entire day yesterday trying to put this thing back together and it ain't happening.

I put it back together the way it was, but maybe that's the problem? Missing parts, perhaps? Once back together I am getting way too much resistance when moving to the snares up position. I've broken this think down and reassembled it close to 20 times now and I get varying degrees of resistance, and sometimes it just won't move. I figured I may have been tightening things too much. Another issue may be with how far I am screwing the the throw off and strainer rods into the center receiver that floats in the middle of the drum shell.

But I think I'm starting to think the issue may be with the Tuxedo mechanisms internally. These were very heavily gooped-up with grease when I took them apart. One of them had two non-matching springs place above the T-shaped "lifter" and the other one only had one spring. I am wondering if these are supposed to have springs inside them (I assume they do) and if the springs are the problem? Are they the wrong type of spring? Are they in the wrong place? Something I'm really curious about is what are the two holes on the bottom of the left and right "T" section for? Is there something that is supposed to be in those holes?

Perhaps the reason these things had so much grease in them is because of the resistance engaging the lever. Are these supposed to be greased up?

This is difficult to explain and perhaps too difficult to work through on a message board post. I'd be up for a phone conversation if someone with knowledge of these units would be so generous. I'm honestly ready to give up. I knew this was going to be a pain.

I've got some before and after pics below. Thanks.

Dan
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Posted on 10 years ago
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First off if you have pictured all the parts you are missing some keys parts to make it work properly. The pic of the plate and lever attached to the shell is incorrect. That needs to be attached to the casing of the strainer. The parts that appear to be missing are the two end pieces and knobs, two aluminum rectangle pieces that slide along the two long rods. The wires also attach to and those two aluminum pieces and last the two long rods. Finding those parts is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

Lastly that is not a 99 Super. It's the predecessor, the 701 Super.

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[IMG]http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x246/dolfan54/George%20Way/IMG_0778.jpg[/IMG]

1957 George Way BDP 26" concert bass drum
1959 George Way BDP 22/12/16 w/ 5.5x14
1959 George Way Green Sparkle 22/12/16 w/5.5x14
1961 George Way Blue Sparkle 20/12/15
1961 George Way Jelly Bean 20/12/14 w/4.5x14
1960’s Camco Oaklawn Champagne 20/12/14/16w/5x14
1971-73 Camco Chanute Walnut 24/14/18 w/5x14 COB
Posted on 10 years ago
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DolFan has it right that the mechanism is a 701. My 2 cents is to let that thing go and get back to a Dynasonic.

The Camco parallel mechanism is known only to a secret society.

(The main secret is that the Dynasonic is the drum to own. ;))

Posted on 10 years ago
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From Dan Boucher

DolFan has it right that the mechanism is a 701. My 2 cents is to let that thing go and get back to a Dynasonic. The Camco parallel mechanism is known only to a secret society. (The main secret is that the Dynasonic is the drum to own. ;))

I'll take a Powertone over a Dyna any day. Same with an Aristocrat over a Super. Much easier to tune up IMO. I find myself constantly tweaking the drum for tone when I play my 99 Super.

1957 George Way BDP 26" concert bass drum
1959 George Way BDP 22/12/16 w/ 5.5x14
1959 George Way Green Sparkle 22/12/16 w/5.5x14
1961 George Way Blue Sparkle 20/12/15
1961 George Way Jelly Bean 20/12/14 w/4.5x14
1960’s Camco Oaklawn Champagne 20/12/14/16w/5x14
1971-73 Camco Chanute Walnut 24/14/18 w/5x14 COB
Posted on 10 years ago
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Is this what we are talking about here,

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Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 10 years ago
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I knew I was missing a knob on mine but looking at Steves pics I see I am missing several pieces. My drum has only one rod running over the wires, looks like there should be two of them. Then it looks like I am missing the piece the the rods go through and the wires attach to. Last one would be the piece that connects all of that to the strainer, and of course that tension knob. Sound correct?

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Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Posted on 10 years ago
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I put the drum back together. I think it sounds pretty good. You can see at the beginning of this video clip what I'm dealing with. The throw off on the primary strainer will not engage the snares without me lifting up on the bottom of the throw off mechanism. That's really the only issue. I didn't grease any parts and maybe that is why? Or, the cam inside the primary strainer is mishaped? In either event, after spending a whole weekend wrestling with it, I think I'll tell myself "it's working just fine".

[ame]https://youtu.be/v11Mlf5Jw5g[/ame]

Some pics of the finished drum. My Camco 701 Super in Blue Moire.

http://debrajeans.smugmug.com/Music/Camco-Blue-Moire-701-Super/

Dan
(red66charger)

Looking for:
- L.A. Camco 12" Stradivarius Tom Tom
Posted on 10 years ago
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From jccabinets

Is this what we are talking about here,

Originally, yes. Steve informed me later that my drum is actually an earlier 701 Super, not a 99 Super.

From jccabinets

I knew I was missing a knob on mine but looking at Steves pics I see I am missing several pieces. My drum has only one rod running over the wires, looks like there should be two of them. Then it looks like I am missing the piece the the rods go through and the wires attach to. Last one would be the piece that connects all of that to the strainer, and of course that tension knob. Sound correct?

I'm no expert Jeff, but from researching my drum I learned that the 99 Super became a one rail mechanism at some point. I think my drum is an early model of the Super and yours may be a late model. I think I came about that information on an old thread here, and I'm pretty sure it came from Steve! :)

Dan
(red66charger)

Looking for:
- L.A. Camco 12" Stradivarius Tom Tom
Posted on 10 years ago
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This is the thread where Steve breaks down the progression of the Super snare models. Very helpful.

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=15317

Dan
(red66charger)

Looking for:
- L.A. Camco 12" Stradivarius Tom Tom
Posted on 10 years ago
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From jccabinets

I knew I was missing a knob on mine but looking at Steves pics I see I am missing several pieces. My drum has only one rod running over the wires, looks like there should be two of them. Then it looks like I am missing the piece the the rods go through and the wires attach to. Last one would be the piece that connects all of that to the strainer, and of course that tension knob. Sound correct?

Yours is the single rail version which was the last version they made of the Super strainer. It's also the most common, usually found on COB Tuxedo lug snare drums. I once had a wood Aristocrst (round lug) with the 99 Super. That drum was super rare and I should've held onto that one. The silver sparkle wood 99 Super I have is rare too as most are COB. But it has tuxedo Lugs. Rare but not nearly as desirable.

[IMG]http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x246/dolfan54/Camco%20Oaklawn/CamcoOakWal99Butt.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x246/dolfan54/Camco%20Oaklawn/CamcoOak99Walnut2.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x246/dolfan54/Camco%20Oaklawn/CamcoOakWal99Strainer.jpg[/IMG]

1957 George Way BDP 26" concert bass drum
1959 George Way BDP 22/12/16 w/ 5.5x14
1959 George Way Green Sparkle 22/12/16 w/5.5x14
1961 George Way Blue Sparkle 20/12/15
1961 George Way Jelly Bean 20/12/14 w/4.5x14
1960’s Camco Oaklawn Champagne 20/12/14/16w/5x14
1971-73 Camco Chanute Walnut 24/14/18 w/5x14 COB
Posted on 10 years ago
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