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Are These Really Ludwigs?

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Hi guys. Frequent reader, infrequent poster.

Those are without a doubt Japanese drums with Ludwig hardware. The wood is Luan (Japanese mahogany) and on the last pic you can even see a remnant of an old round badge around the air vent. Probably a blue badge with letters that read "Made in Japan" or something similar.

My first kit was a Werco Slingerland knockoff. Sounded really great. Looked even better. Red glass glitter.

Posted on 10 years ago
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billnvick;287647

I agree. MIJ's with Ludwig hardware. At least the hardware is worth something!

Don't get me wrong... if they sound good, like Mike said above: "roll on with them!"

But a 26" Bass drum? Did they make that size in Japan in that era?

Bill

Guess I didn't read it was a 26" bass drum...possible that it could be Ludwig. If you take another look, that one has horizontal grain on the wood. Hmmm...

- EMD
Posted on 10 years ago
#12
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I think you are on to something elmoonlight. The position of the diamond plate tom holder and hole for the badge look pretty good also. From the pics I would guess the kick is actually a Ludwig.

1954 Gretsch Name Band Outfit White Marine Pearl
1964 Ludwig Downbeat Kit Champagne Sparkle
1964 Ludwig Jazz Combo Kit Gold Sparkle
1964 Gretsch Jazz Progressive Jazz Progressive Kit
1965 Ludwig Club Date Kit BDP
1971 Slingerland 13,16,22 in Black Sparkle
1979 Rogers XP-8 Super Londoner Tobacco Sunburst
1982 Rogers XP-8 Black Londoner
Numerous Snare Drums
Posted on 10 years ago
#13
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you guys are awesome! first time in here. lots o' Ludwig knowledge up in this place. i just got home from work and I'm waiting on a Questlove Breakbeats kit to be delivered!

i kinda like the wood on this kit i posted, and they do have a pretty deep sounding tone, even with the worn out Ambassadors on them (though the floor tom and bass have clear pin stripe heads). here's some more pics and the inside of the bass drum as requested. plus, a beauty shot of that tom mount : ) also, on the outside of the bass drum, there's a weird indentation that looks like it might have been a badge (but, not one i recognize). anyone know what that is?

Posted on 10 years ago
#14
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Breakbeats just arrived and I'm about to tear into them. I'll post a pic later if anyone's interested... thanks again, drum friends!

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Posted on 10 years ago
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I don't know enough to say rether the bass is ludwig for sure but to me it looks like one. The indention on the bass is most likely from a cymbal mount. Oh and thanks for the close up of the tom mount, nice

Stay Wiggly,
Robyn
Posted on 10 years ago
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I'm with the rest, Luddy bass and MIJ remains. I've seen my share of MIJ stuff, and I've only ever seen a few 24" MIJ bass drums, and those were all by CB-700. I've never seen anything bigger.

fishwaltz
Posted on 10 years ago
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After looking at the above photos more, im thinking the tom mount is not original. The hole for it is square, i would think it would be round if original. I wonder if the bass was a virgin bass or maybe had a cosselette(spel?) mount in the beginning. Not sure tho???

Wait, it wouldn't be a virgin bass tho if there was a cymbal mount, right?

Stay Wiggly,
Robyn
Posted on 10 years ago
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How many Tee's & lugs on the bass? A 26 would have ten; if it's MIJ, it might only have six!LOL! Spurs don't look Ludwig.....marko

Posted on 10 years ago
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10 T&Ls. yep, those spurs definitely NOT Ludwig; kit didn't come with spurs so i went to Ace Hardware and picked up some metal dowels and plastic caps to ghetto-styley still the bass drum which had a tendency to want to roll without the fakeshift spurs, lol!

Posted on 10 years ago
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