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5 ply Rogers Fullerton shells?

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Hi Rogers gurus, I'm just looking for verification really but I'm wondering/making sure that a 5 ply Rogers shell with rings is usually made up of maple/poplar?

Got my eyes on something again, ugly mahogany wrap, but I do believe the shells on a Big R badged Rogers should be the same as older script logo shells which means they should sound awesome, no? :)

$350 for a 22, 16 and 12 shell pack but looks like the original T rods on the kick are replaced with drum key rods and the big ugly tubular bass drum spurs are missing the rubber tips.

Not taking the 13'' or the COB Dyna. I passed on this whole set up when it was $500 a few weeks ago as on inspection the 13'' was rashed up super bad and the new seller has the 13 photo shopped but has agreed to part the kit out for me where as the original seller wouldn't.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Maple and Birch with maple being the primary. Contact Harry J Cangany Jr. if you need confirmation.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
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Wow, that sounds even better! :)

Was checking the Rogers book again and Cook mentions the script logo shells to be 3 ply, but thought I'd read here on VDF that 3 ply shells were a lot older and would be on sets from the 50's with BB lugs.

Regardless, I think the majority of Rogers shells were Jasper, IN made, just like Gretsch, whether 3 or 5 ply.

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From about the time the Dyna-Sonic was introduced the primary supplier for shells to Rogers was Keller. Early keller were three ply. This finished the B&B lug era, and continued into the Beavertail era. Later Cleveland shells were five ply and that continued into the Fullerton era. 9/72 shells were stated to be three ply in the catalog. The early Big R period returned to a five ply configuration until mid 1979 when the XP8 all Maple keller was introduced and that was the shell layup to the end in 1984.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
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Good to know, Rob Cook should correct his Rogers book perhaps :D

Thought this whole time that 60's and 70's script logo Rogers shells were Jasper made shells. Also thought Big R badge shells were Jasper made shells. Thought Keller came into the fold when Rogers came out with the Big R XP8 shells.

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His book states that "Keller also supplied some shells in the 60's".

His book also states that "Jasper supplied the shells for all of the earliest Ohio-era Rogers drums as well as Gretsch shells until as recently as 2002".

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Eh, ended up getting all 4 pieces for $400. Snare rash was actually on the 12'' so I kind of needed the 13". Did I get robbed? The Ludwig snare I added myself from my current line up.

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Looks like a smokin' deal to me, and I am glad you did not create any orphans!

-Erik
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Early '70's Slingerland New Rock #50 in blue agate (20-16-13-12)
Late '50's WFL Swingster/Barrett Deems in black/gold Duco
'70's Slingerland Gene Krupa Sound King COB
early '70's Ludwig Acrolite
'80's Ludwig Rocker II 6 1/2" snare
Rogers Supreme Big "R" hi hat

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Details Ploughman! You've got the details. First I've heard of birch in the shell. Always thought it was poplar. Very interesting. Wouldn't it be fun to take a badly Swiss-cheesed shell that nobody wants anymore and tear it down and have a look. I'm guessing there was a day-and-age where secrecy on such topics was a means to preserve your "sound" as a manufacturer so that others might not be able to replicate it. Kind of like the agreements that recording musicians signed indicating were not allowed to divulge on whose work they had participated.

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Jasper supplied shells to Rogers until 62 or so, then the Keller shells came in as Ploughman said. First 3-ply, then 5-ply, then 3-ply for a little while then 5-ply again and then the XP8 series. As Jack said... ;)

What was meant by the passage in the book was that Jasper supplied shells to Gretsch until 2002.

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