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1977 Fibes

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Hi I was thinking of trading my sonor force 2005 (2x 22" bass drums, 8" 10" 12" 14" toms and 16" floor) for a 1977 Fibes. Here's the picture:

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Since the guy doesn't give much information except it's a 24" bass drum, 13" and 14" toms (the 14 is not in the picture) and a 18" floor tom, I need infos on the kit. Did Fibes make maple kits in 1977 or it was only fiberglass because it looks like real wood, altough it may be a wrap or something. And some info or links for this particular era of the company or any info on this kit would be appreciated. And do you think it's a good deal trading my sonor for it?

Thanks

Posted on 13 years ago
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If those were made in 1977 they are Corder drums made in Huntsville Alabama. James Corder bought the machinery from Fibes so the hardware is the same. I know he used Jasper shells on some of those drums. Very nice kit. That is a top shelf kit.

If they are jasper shells I would consider tradeing. I know because I taught at his music store in front of the drum factory in 1977 and was good friends with him and his Son's. I still have some Camco shells he gifted me and also a Fibes/Corder bass drum pedal I still use to this day.

I am still kicking myself that I did not have him build me a custom set in Bebop sizes.

Posted on 13 years ago
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I didn`t think Jim started Corder til 1979. Anyway, love Corders but those Fibes in the pics look like they are the fiberglass shells and that was a finish Fibes put out around that time. I think there is a kit like it on ebay which may shed more light on the matter. It is kind of a marble-like wood finish on the wrap.

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YOu know what. Now that I think about it, he may have been makeing the rainbo jingles tambourines when I first started working there but I think he was just in the process of makeing the deal with Fibes. So you are correct. I was there when he was makeing the drums too. It has been 34 years so I may have my time line off a little. I tried to blow up the pic of the badge but it was still fuzzy. I was affiliated between 77-80. Things tend to run together a little from so long ago.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Yes the one on ebay looks like the same finish, so it's fiberglass, but the one I would trade is in WAY better condition than the one on ebay, it has no scratches at all the guy said it was in excellent condition, I will know for sure when I see it tough but it sure looks top notch, altough the bass drum hoops and claws don't seem to be the originals, it looks nice. If anyone as experience with the 70s fiberglass Fibes kits some feedbacks would be nice.

Thanks guys!

Posted on 13 years ago
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Looks like a Fibes kit before they went to Corder. I'd say that's a good trade. I've only palyed the Crystalites, clear kit, from the '70's, but I'll bet those sound good. As loud as you want them to be with lots of tone and sustain!

Posted on 13 years ago
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Those CF Martin-era Fibes were really poorly constructed drums... inconsistent shell thickness, jagged wrap edges/seams, missing chunks from the lug holes, and big lumpy seams where the shell joins up

Really, they look like they were made by eight-grade schoolkids... they might sound okay, but insist on removing the rims so you can see inside the shells; the tom holder was a pretty wonky design, assuming its survived and is still usable

Their parallel snare strainer design is ridiculously simple but brilliant; its unfortunate that everything else was so shoddy, but at that time they were owned by a guitar factory... later versions look much nicer

Not sure why those ones are $700

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As I have been told the craftmanship is not the best indeed in the CF Martin Era but I never heard or red complaints about the sound of a CF Martin era fiberglass kit and I also don't understand why they sell for as much as other era fibes kits...since it is 1 hour drive to go see the kit I don't want to waste my time if they really are not that good (at least not as good as Fibes' reputation) and pretty ordinary.

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From davezedlee

Those CF Martin-era Fibes were really poorly constructed drums... inconsistent shell thickness, jagged wrap edges/seams, missing chunks from the lug holes, and big lumpy seams where the shell joins upReally, they look like they were made by eight-grade schoolkids... they might sound okay, but insist on removing the rims so you can see inside the shells; the tom holder was a pretty wonky design, assuming its survived and is still usableTheir parallel snare strainer design is ridiculously simple but brilliant; its unfortunate that everything else was so shoddy, but at that time they were owned by a guitar factory... later versions look much nicerNot sure why those ones are $700

Wow, Thats the first BAD things that i have seen said about Fibes drums.I have 6 set's of the GREAT drums have used them over the year's with no problems.Out of the 6 set's that i have 3 are fiberglass shells 3 are Vistalite shells all date from 1969-75..I have not re-cut the edge's ete on any of these set's...Have not replace any parts..They are the best Sounding drums out of the fiberglass shell set's that i have...Mikey

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