Here´s the bearing edges of the 13x9 (2 pics - first and last) and the 16x16 (pic in the middle) toms. Can you help me identify the 16x16 tom? It´s maple on the outside, I´d say. And it has a reinforcement ring. It also has TWO baseball bat tone controls? To me it seems like it is a 4layer drum.. The mahogany tom seems original, right?
Thanks for the help!
Also the white paint inside the floor tom seems fake, it was probably clear before.
The floor tom (last picture of the three right?) appears to be a Ludwig as far as I can tell. Mahogany/poplar/mahogany 3 ply layup which would be one of the variations Ludwig was using at the time (also Mahogany/poplar/maple, maple/poplar/maple, or maple/poplar/mahogany depending on what the final finish of the drum might be and what woods they had on hand that day). Painted drums almost always had maple exterior plies, wrapped drums usually had mahogany exterior plies.
Double mufflers were not uncommon with the extra either being a special order during production or added later by the dealer or end user.
The floor tom (last picture of the three right?) appears to be a Ludwig as far as I can tell. Mahogany/poplar/mahogany 3 ply layup which would be one of the variations Ludwig was using at the time (also Mahogany/poplar/maple, maple/poplar/maple, or maple/poplar/mahogany depending on what the final finish of the drum might be and what woods they had on hand that day). Painted drums almost always had maple exterior plies, wrapped drums usually had mahogany exterior plies. Double mufflers were not uncommon with the extra either being a special order during production or added later by the dealer or end user.
Hard to tell exactly what is there due to the limited crappy pics.....DOH
Sorry, I‘ll take more pictures the next time I‘m in the studio. Yesterday I was dissapointed and didn‘t have much time...
Sounds good to me that the tom looks like a ludwig. But the floor tom is the picture in the middle, I messed up uploading them. As I said, I‘ll come with better ones. Thanks!!
Here are more pictures, hope they are good enough!
First the 13x9 tom, seems to be what it is supposed to be.
Now the 22x14 Bass Drum. I´m not sure, but I guess the extra holes were for a cymbal stand? Maybe the tom holder is also non original? It seems to be a 3ply mahogany/poplar/mahogany bass drum. The badge is really damaged, as you can see. There´s also the DRUMLAND sticker in the front head.
And last the 16x16 floor tom. That´s where I don´t know what I´m looking at. To me it seems to be 4ply, but I´m not 100% sure. I can´t see the joint in the wood, as if the way if was constructed was completely different. Also the reinforcement ring isn´t as well made as the ones in the other two drums. As you can see it is maple (or some other similar wood - birch?) in the outside. In the inside, I can´t tell. There are no extra holes that I can see, though there are two tone controls. The badge is also pictured. I don´t know, seems to be too much work for a fake, but doesn´t look like what it is supposed to be.
Ok, so what you've got there are in fact Ludwig drums, but they have been re-wrapped. The wrap is NOT original, despite what the guy that you got them from told you. You can tell by the fact that the air vent grommets have all been removed/disturbed at some point. Also, the glue joint on the floor tom is a dead giveaway. They look like they were done a long time ago however, so maybe someone could think that the wrap was original if they had no clue.
Two tone controls on the same head is a bit unusual, but it could have been ordered that way, or maybe it was relocated at some point in its life and whoever re-wrapped them wanted to fill all the holes? Either way, what you have is the real deal, just not well represented by the person you got them from.
That sounds great! Still don’t understand the difference in the 16x16 tom... might it be that it was a duco finish and that’s why it is maple? Or maybe the badge is a wrong one and it’s a late 60s tom?
