You missed my points. The greed I'm Pointing to is the artificially inflated bit and the potential disruption to current pricing. I make these points more specifically in a later post. Sorry that I wasn't clear. Typical of me.
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You missed my points. The greed I'm Pointing to is the artificially inflated bit and the potential disruption to current pricing. I make these points more specifically in a later post. Sorry that I wasn't clear. Typical of me.
I got it, maybe others missed it... :D
I honestly don't agree. Vintage gear stays very high without regard to any other factors. This is due in part and parcel to the quality of the tones and such that are not reproducable by today's technology. You can't get a piece of software to dupe a strat through a Leslie (sp?) with any sort of solid convincing level. ... and so on. But, you CAN dupe the sound of pretty much any drum with someone who knows how to tweak a dial with style. It's a much simpler process. It's the feel for the drummer that is the variable. That can't be overcome.
Well....that is interesting and I hope you are right.
From what I have seen..Quality vintage music gear has skyrocketed in the last 20 years. Now I am only 31, but I have been around music my whole life. I remember a time, let's say 1989, that you could p/u a 1964 Ludwig whatever for dirt cheap. At that time the stated drum(s) would be considered by most circles vintage (25 years old).
Certain vintage recording gear has shot up 1000% in the last 20 years.
My point is, I would like to be around another 20 years.
20 years from now will a Ludwig Club Date Combo still go for $850?
Yeah, but someone wanted the drum so was the seller greedy or was it that the buyer really wanted the drum? Oyster Blue Pearl is technically more rare than Oyster Black Pearl...Mike Curotto
Domo Arigato, Mr. Curotto.
"Nietzsche is dead." -God
It simply isn't realistic to think these things aren't going to increase in value. Why? Because people want what they can't have. And many, many, MANY vintage drums have been collected over the last decade. That means that you won't be seeing nearly as many of the especially-coveted drums and drum sets on the market. And THAT means that when one does come up, there will be HUNGRY individuals waiting to get it.
There are some interesting theories here as to what might be going on with this particular auction. I tend to think that the seller with over 200 positive transactions with zero negative feedback is an indication that at least the seller is legit. As to the buyer? We'll see. But I honestly hope it's ALL legit because that means the trend for vintage drum prices to finally start going UP in value is here.
You couldn't have expected the market to stay in a constant state of supply when the items we are talking about are no longer being made. It simply doesn't make sense.
That's my opinion and 2 cents.
"Nietzsche is dead." -God
I know the seller...the drum was indeed sold and paid for. The seller likes to put things at an extremely high reserve, not expecting them to sell, to see how high something gets bid. Then he usually sells to someone offline who was interested in the auction. He's had a lot of success selling that way. In this case, the buyer kept bidding and bidding until the reserve of $3000 was hit...this is all of the bids you are seeing. When a reserve is not hit, each successive bid under the reserve shows up in the history. The seller was as shocked about the price as anyone else.
-Bill
One event (or even a couple) does not a trend make.
Fact is, most of the prices have decreased over the past year. This stuff goes in waves. Mark my words - by this time next year, the Slingerland 60s and 70s drums will be approaching twice what they were two years ago. That's the current trend. Rogers have inched a bit downwards. Ludwig has a large variance between high and low, but if you look within (at the average), you will note that they are slightly down.
It simply isn't realistic to think these things aren't going to increase in value. Why? Because people want what they can't have. And many, many, MANY vintage drums have been collected over the last decade. That means that you won't be seeing nearly as many of the especially-coveted drums and drum sets on the market. And THAT means that when one does come up, there will be HUNGRY individuals waiting to get it.There are some interesting theories here as to what might be going on with this particular auction. I tend to think that the seller with over 200 positive transactions with zero negative feedback is an indication that at least the seller is legit. As to the buyer? We'll see. But I honestly hope it's ALL legit because that means the trend for vintage drum prices to finally start going UP in value is here.You couldn't have expected the market to stay in a constant state of supply when the items we are talking about are no longer being made. It simply doesn't make sense.That's my opinion and 2 cents.
Right on. That's what I'm thinking as well.
I don't understand ! The thread - "I Have This Disease" with the answer for a cure being "buy more" should answer any questions about prices & availabillity. If you are a business and don,t play drums you are pricing yourself out of existance. If you are a drummer and enjoy playing music it seems senseless to have as many drums as it looks like people have. Maybe you do have a disease and don't have the resources to take other vintage drums off the market.
I believe that collectors of so many drums have them for a reason, to make money as the prices rise such as seen with this snare on ebay. This should be expected and even collectors should be overjoyed with the rising prices of " vintage drums". TOM
I don't understand ! The thread - "I Have This Disease" with the answer for a cure being "buy more" should answer any questions about prices & availabillity. If you are a business and don,t play drums you are pricing yourself out of existance. If you are a drummer and enjoy playing music it seems senseless to have as many drums as it looks like people have. Maybe you do have a disease and don't have the resources to take other vintage drums off the market. I believe that collectors of so many drums have them for a reason, to make money as the prices rise such as seen with this snare on ebay. This should be expected and even collectors should be overjoyed with the rising prices of " vintage drums". TOM
Absolutely right.
"Nietzsche is dead." -God
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