A great looking kit! Looking at the 1973 catalog, there's nothing that remotely looks like this in a cataloged kit. Really seems like it was a custom order to me.

Could it be a Rock Duo in large sizes?

I was a member of another drum enthusiast forum that had members waging wars of words over "catalog correct" drum sets--mostly of the Ludwig flavor. I thought that this was largely a waste of time back then, and still feel that way. I grew up in the Chicago area where I began playing drum sets in the mid 1950's. I had every drum catalog that I could glom on to. I was like many of us here. The catalogs were in my bedroom, in dresser drawers, on shelves, on the floor, under the pillow. They were my wish books. I would dream about actually having one of the drum sets in the catalogs. The Slingerland catalogs were always my favorites. I could take the city bus to visit music stores to ogle the few drum sets on display and ask for any new catalogs. I would look at a particular drum set that I wanted pictured in a catalog, and look for it in the music stores. With very few exceptions (mostly beginner sets) the pictured drum sets were never in the stores. The 22--13--16--with chrome snare on page 26 of the catalog could not be found in any of the local stores. But, there were lots of 20-two 12s-16-with matching wood snare sets. And, keep in mind, most of the drum makers were within an hour or two of where I lived. My first new set was a Rogers four piece outfit that I ordered exactly as I wanted it. Similar configurations were in the catalog, but not the exact same one that I wanted. After that set, I bought what was already in the store if I liked it. In the catalog? Never. I didn't care then or now if it was pictured there. Most of my vintage sets can not be found as configured in their respective catalogs. My 1963 Shelly Manne Leedy BDP set has the optional 20" bass drum that was listed, but not pictured, in the catalog. My 1963 Rogers Holiday set has a matching Luxor snare instead of the catalog model. And, so on........................................

This changed radically by the 1980's I was the manufacturer's rep for Fender. This meant that I was also the Rogers USA rep during the last few years of CBS ownership of Rogers. I sold hundreds of Rogers drum sets. Almost every one of the sets ordered by the dealers was straight out of the catalog--cookie cutter drum sets. There were very few special order configurations or orders for extra toms. And, there were no matching wood snare drums unless the drum set was all natural maple finish (one of my least favorite finishes ever).

Why the long dissertation? Stated simply......why concern yourself with what name was arbitrarily given to a drum set configuration pictured in a catalog? Call it the Defecator, or the Pentagon, or Leroy for all that I care, and for all that it really matters.

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That outfit has gotta sound like THUNDER !!!

If the larger outfit you picked the drums from that you wanted was on display at the store you bought it from, then it was prolly configured by them as an eye-catcher and up-sales technique.... and it worked.

You wouldn't have seen your 18x20 FT in a configured outfit in the catalog that year, but you could see it listed as an available size in the Ludwig Super Classic Tom Toms section of the catalog.

Some pictures of your outfit would be some pleasant "eye-candy" for us.

Can you post some pics?

I call my drum kit Eddie, and I told him he could call me Al!

I have a term that use for any very common item. If someone asks me what some cheap stencil brand set is or what some cheap Stratocaster copy is, I always answer thusly. That drum set or Strat copy is Ernie the generic cheap Asian stencil drum set or Ernie the generic cheap Asian Strat knockoff.

Thanks for the replies. At this point I'm just trying to make sense of something I did almost 40 years ago...heh heh... which original kit they are from, whether catalog or custom, is simply a curiosity, the product of years of car restoration forum research. Talk about "factory correct" issues, try a vintage Porsche forum! I'm searching through old records as I might still have the reciept or loan agreement which might also shed light.

But bottom line, I just love these drums, yes, they sound like thunder, and because they are an unusual configuration, they are that much more special to me. I have no desire to sell them. I will clean them up and post plenty of pics, and then attempt to play them with the energy of a nineteen-year old and the acquired wisdom (?) of a 58 year-old.

Call it the Defecator, or the Pentagon, or Leroy for all that I care, and for all that it really matters......or, maybe call it Shelly Manne, or Holiday, for all that that really matters........???.......:)

Ernie is a good name for the items you describe; Tarshawniel or Sheniqua are just too interesting, Sheena too exotic, Steve could be interchanged with Ernie.