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Hello all,

Some days ago I bought a WFL Zephyr 6-lugger from a fellow member over at Cymbalholic.com. The drum arrived yesterday and here are my first impressions of it.

First, here is an overview of the drum:

[img]http://web.comhem.se/inventions/downloads/WFL_Front.jpg[/img]

As you can see, the drum is in amazingly good condition for its age. I suppose both the badge and lugs suggest an early 1940s vintage - but I don't know. Please help me out here.

Here is the badge:

[img]http://web.comhem.se/inventions/downloads/WFL_Badge.jpg[/img]

The worst "damage" occurs around the lugs, where the paint (white lacquer?) has partly flaked off. The dark colour of the wood beneath the paint suggests mahogany to me, indicating that the 3 plies, from inside to outside, may be: maple, poplar, mahogany (as you can see from the picture of the reso side further below, the inner ply is the same light colour as the reinforcement rings, i.e. most likely maple and certainly not mahogany).

Talking about plies, the outer ply struck me as having a rather rough seam.

As the seller at Cymbalholic mentioned, the drum previously belonged to 20th Century Fox. This previous owner's inscription is on the top rim:

[img]http://web.comhem.se/inventions/downloads/WFL_Inscription.jpg[/img]

The strainer mechanism is very nice, with a nice reso hoop, a functional strainer and a 12 strand snare wire:

[img]http://web.comhem.se/inventions/downloads/WFL_Throw-off.jpg[/img]

[img]http://web.comhem.se/inventions/downloads/WFL_Reso.jpg[/img]

Most of the drums hardware could probably be cleaned and polished. It looks quite nice IRL, but it does have rust stains like these, and I welcome any suggestions on what to do about this:

[img]http://web.comhem.se/inventions/downloads/WFL_Lug_Rust.jpg[/img]

Regarding the sound of this drum, it arrived with a Remo Vintage Weather King batter/Clear reso. Once I got the Remo heads dialed in, the drum was extremely open sounding, more so than my other snare drums. But my real interest in this drum lies in equipping it with calf, at least on the batter side. I will order a Kalfo head for it, but as for now I only have an Earthtone calf head, which I quickly put on it. I am not a big fan of Earthtones, since I think they are too thick and lack tone - at least compared to the Kalfos. The drum, however, does sound good with the ET head, not great, but good, kind of open and dryish at the same time.

So, any comments will be welcome regarding this drum. If you can help me dating it closer, that would be great.

Also, any cleaning tips, particularly regarding the hardware, would be welcome. The paint job on this drum does look quite old, but in a nice way. The paint has cracked in certain areas, but I like the look of that, so I don't think I will attempt to do anything about it.

/Magnus

Posted on 13 years ago
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The Zephyr lug was used from 1939-46. The hoops, rods & hooks could be cleaned, but if you try to clean or remove the lugs there will be an increased loss of finish at that point. Even in changing a head you might find some finish flaking off. You might think about just keeping it as it is.

Posted on 13 years ago
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The Ludwig Book has 12 different WFL Keystone badges, but does not make fine distinctions for dating. Most other website lists are just as vague. However, the Zephyr lug was still being used in 1941, & the strainer on your snare was the first version of the P83, beginning in 1941. (then there were the War Time drums, restricted to 10% metal). Since your badge has the script "W F Ludwig Founder", I'm guessing your snare dates to 1941.

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From tdennis

The Zephyr lug was used from 1939-46. The hoops, rods & hooks could be cleaned, but if you try to clean or remove the lugs there will be an increased loss of finish at that point. Even in changing a head you might find some finish flaking off. You might think about just keeping it as it is.

Dennis, good points. I will bear what you say in mind. I guess the flaking around the lugs may have occurred when some previous owner removed them.

From tdennis

The Ludwig Book has 12 different WFL Keystone badges, but does not make fine distinctions for dating. Most other website lists are just as vague. However, the Zephyr lug was still being used in 1941, & the strainer on your snare was the first version of the P83, beginning in 1941. (then there were the War Time drums, restricted to 10% metal). Since your badge has the script "W F Ludwig Founder", I'm guessing your snare dates to 1941.

Hey Dennis, awesome information. If the strainer was first used in 1941, then it would seem my drum may well be one of the last with metal hardware to be produced before the US entered the war.

From Fuse

Magnus, you'll probably want to check the Vintage Drum Guide books for info on WFL drums and pictures of badges. In the early 40s, WFL didn't make drums with metal hoops or tension rods because they weren't allowed to use that much metal on a non-essential item during WWII. As well, based on the writing on the badge on the sides of the vent hole, I think this drum might be more along the lines of a late-30s drum. But I could be totally wrong about that.

Fuse, that's interesting information and very helpful.

From Fuse

It looks a lot like the School Concert model pictured in the 1941 catalog. Here's the link: http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/images/ludwig_snaredrums/1941_wfl_snaredrum5.jpgThe badge, though, makes me think it's a little earlier than that.

Great! Yes, I think you are spot on! They even mention the choice of lacquer colours for an extra dollar and a half! Fantastic. Even more intriguing is the fact that the catalog is from 1941, which is the year WFL started producing the P83 strainer, according to Dennis. 1941 would seem a very likely year for my drum, I'd say!

Dennis and Fuse: I don't know how to thank you for your incredible expertise here!

/Magnus

Posted on 13 years ago
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From Magnus_N

[img]http://web.comhem.se/inventions/downloads/WFL_Front.jpg[/img]

Killer snare !!

Just as a comparison as to how well yours has weathered the storm over the years, here is my 8-lugger deep-dish from the same year....

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From kevins

Killer snare !!Just as a comparison as to how well yours has weathered the storm over the years, here is my 8-lugger deep-dish from the same year....

What a war horse your 8-lugger is! Beautiful. It looks like you have a calf batter head. Is that correct? I bet your drum sounds fabulous with a good calf head.

/Magnus

Posted on 13 years ago
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Thanks Magnus!

She came with a calf batter, and unfortunately, a very thick snare side so I really didn't have a good sound with that config.

I switched to modern heads, and she sounds great, one day I'll invest in a slunk or two and see what some of my older snares used to sound like for real.

I really dig your snare as well.... hope she sounds as good as she looks, man!

Zephyr lugs are simplistically beautiful, and a real testament to the craftsmanship of the day..... I have a 26 bass, a 16x16, a 9x13, and a 7x11 with Zephyrs, and all tune up nicely after all these years.

Kev

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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I'm only posting this photo so that both of you can feel better about your snares. (Note, the Zephyr lug w/ the diamond stamping ).

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Kev, I can imagine that a thick reso head + calf batter combo does not sound good. But calf batter and regular thin plastic reso is what I have on the majority of my snares, and that does sound very good. Any residual boxiness will disappear if the reso head is cranked up somewhat.

I haven't had time to really find out what my drum can do soundwise. I got it only three days ago. It arrived with a Remo Vintage Amb/reso Amb combo. Once I got those heads dialed in, the drum had an extremely open sound, more so than my other drums. I then changed to the only calf batter head I had on hand that would fit it, the Earthtone head I mention above.

My experience with Earthtones is a mixed bag. I have two 14" batter heads lying around. To my mind, ET batters are too thick and inconsistent to produce a satisfying sound. At best, my ETs give a dry sound with few overtones. This is the sound I got with the WFL. It was OK, but I am sure I could get a sound more to my liking with a regular Ambassador batter.

I also have a pair of older ET goat 18" bass drum heads, and they sound fabulous on my Phonic bop-kit bass drum, producing a lovely clear tone when tuned high, and a fat, singing bottom when tuned low.

What I intend to do, though, is to order a Kalfo batter for the drum, tuck it on a wooden flesh-hoop, and stick it on the drum. I have Kalfos on two of my snare drums, and they sound fantastic. The Kalfo heads have a nice and clear, almost tympani-like musical tone, without nasty overtones. They are easy to dial in.

My "Kalfo snare drums" so far are Sonor Phonics (one wood, one ferromangan/steel). They sound too boxy with calf on both sides. I guess they are too modern in design (snare beds, primarily, but also number of snare wires, and perhaps also shell) to happily accommodate a calf reso head.

My WFL, on the other hand, is obviously designed in pre-plastic times, so - like you - I am most eager to try it with calf on both sides. I already have a vintage slunk reso head.

I will probably order the Kalfo batter next week.

Right now, I am starting to clean my drum up some, polishing the hoops and trying to remove the rust from the rods and clips.

/Magnus

Posted on 13 years ago
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From tdennis

I'm only posting this photo so that both of you can feel better about your snares. (Note, the Zephyr lug w/ the diamond stamping ).

Wow, that's one beat-up drum. Still beautiful, though. Six-lugger? Will you try to restore it?

Those lugs are really something.

/Magnus

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