There was a time when rogers offered snare drums with with a collet so you could mount your snare off the BD,i haves seen pics of this and it looks like the placement of the collet on your BD is in the right place for that.

I have seen catalougue/flyer pages showing that set up,but as I remember it was early swivo era,B+B drums I think,I don't think the idea caught on,and I don't remember later beavertail era catalogues showing it.

Check this out, http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/images/rogers_sets/festival/1960_festival.jpg

Your kit may have been special ordered that way.

Very nice drums!

I have not seen that collet placement on a beavertail lug Holiday bass either.

That collet location was used for snare drums , as mentioned, and toms on earlier drums. I remember seeing a catalog shot of a bass with 2 toms, both mounted on individual collets close to the batter head.

I can see where it would be a less than ideal location for most setups.

If I were you, I would just mount the tom on a snare stand.

Putting another mount inches away will look a little crowded.

Think if that collet was for a snare drum, then where is the tom collet? The other one is for a cymbal. Rogers would mount them any way you wanted, so maybe someone preference in the day.

You could try a longer tom arm, and mount it a higher and reversed back on the arm to get the tom more centered.

Edit - went back and looked at the bd interior picture. At least one of the collet installations was home done - notice the hole tearout. Looks like the cymbal holder center position. The other mount hole does not have paint in the hole. That picture does not show the full mount hole. Believe Rogers mounting would have paint in the hole, but not positive. Might have been a custom home mount job all the way around.

hah! thanks guys. that all makes sense.

I think I'm going to go down to the basement and make a non-invasive double tom swivomatic mount. run a transverse bar from front to back, clamp it to the hoops just for stability; not for support - that will come from some rubber feet which sit on the shell of the bass drum. then I'll put a hole in it and find a double hex (londoner) arm and call it done.

won't have to cut a hole in the drum....

anyway, they sound great - really thick and warm, and I can't believe how easily they tune and how even everything is. what quality - makes me shake my head when guys talk about vintage gretsch or ludwig, which are mostly pretty sketchy in terms of quality. granted they have mojo, but so do these.

You could have had the mounts placed where ever you wanted back in the day. Then again, I live in Cleveland. One could buy their kit at master music on W25th or one of the big department stores downtown, then take it to Rogers on Bolivar to have "your" mounts installed.

In this case, it is a moot point. I can only see one mount from the inside of the shell to the right of the tag. There is NO WAY that is a Rogers installation. Way to much wood "pull-out" and there is no primer over the damage.

Dave

If that bass drum were ever part of a double bass drum set and used on the left that is about the same spot as they placed a knobby mount to hold the hi-hat up (with its legs folded). If someone then repurposed this drum for single bass drum usage they would only have to drill the center hole to accommodate a tom mounting plate, albeit not in the optimum spot for one. Just another theory.

Hey, if that tom collet is a 75 degree try changing it to a 60 degree. That will make the tom arm sit more vertical.

Cam

He says in the ad..."no extra holes"...

Also...white pad muffler on 16 is wrong...should be black...like the one on the 12.......

Wouldn't the extra holes be grounds for saying..." I did some research,and found there are indeed extra holes and now want my $$$ back?"

It could be an aftermarket placement, and is certainly in keeping with placement on certain set configurations in the 64 and 68 catalogs. See especially the Starlighter in the 68 flyer catalog. It could have been done at the factory, though the seemingly bad drilling on both mounts visible in the one interior pic of the BD are certainly not typical for the time with factory installations. Patina on the fasteners and washers appears to be untouched by cleaning, although I cannot be certain of this. However, some of the patina on several fasteners has not appeared to have aged equally within the same drum. As for originality, either from the factory, or the primary sale store, I think "no extra holes" is as accurate description from the point of view of the seller as one could hope for. The white felt on the floor tom is definitely a replacement on a drum with a flat gray interior in the serial range of the 12 and 20. Again, there is really nothing to suggest anything shady, hidden, or misrepresented by the seller.