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what year do you think it could be Vinatgemore2000?

Posted on 14 years ago
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From TommyK

what year do you think it could be Vinatgemore2000?

tommy, you want our Mij expert Jonnistix to take a look at this he'd know, send him a Pm and refer him to this thread link it to him, hope this helps!

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Tommy, this appears to be a very early 60s Star tom. I can tell you it can be a better sounding tom than first looks would suggest. Once again it would require tearing it down to the shell and spending some quality time with it.

If this were my drum, this is what I would do:

After all hardware is off, sand the interior of the shell smooth with 100 and then 220 grit. You have some rusting so this could be a critical need. Anytime you see the rust on the wood, there is likely some shell compromise on these shells. It is the nature of the wood to absorb moisture.

It also looks like there is little to no bearing edge cut, so if you are comfortable with wood, as it appears you are, I highly recommend hand cutting them with sandpaper. It is easy and not to be feared, but should be done carefully. I just take a 60 or 80 grit and use a bit of forethought and intelligence and just do it. A roundover would best suit this tom.

After all the woodwork itself is done, you will want to complete the job with a coat or two of lacquer, not poly. First tape the hardware holes with blue painters tape and then carefully brush on the lacquer, covering the bearing edges as well.

Before putting it all back, take some steel wool, mineral oil and your screw gun and run the mounting screws in and out of the steel wool soaked with oil, and "fold" the steel wool over the top while at the nape of the screw in order to clean the top of the head. It will keep the screws lubed and protect them from more rusting. I put a ton of work into these old beaters, but the results are nothing short of astounding. I restore entire kits using these methods....and then sometimes donate them to talented kids that would otherwise not be able to follow the dream.

Put it all back together and tune it up. You should have a much more tunable drum and it will last another 40-50 years.

If you need any in depth help, shoot me a PM.

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Posted on 14 years ago
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Hey Vintagemore, thanks!, one last question what could it be worth? I thank everyone with their incredible knowledge helping me out here, you guys ROCK!

Posted on 14 years ago
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From TommyK

Hey Vintagemore, thanks!, one last question what could it be worth? I thank everyone with their incredible knowledge helping me out here, you guys ROCK!

Oops...forgot to answer another question you had. "Star" is the company that we know today as TAMA. That was the name they used until 1974 when they launched TAMA. As for value....not really much at all. This one is sans wrap, so they are really worth more to us as players than to anyone else. You have more labor in it than ot really is worth money-wise. Typically they run, in good condition with wrap intact about 15...

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 14 years ago
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