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Hi finally got a rogers kit!

Posted on 14 years ago
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You dont have to take the heads off, just peak through the vent hole.

Nothing wrong with a rewrap if you dont mind turning your thousand dollar investment into a 300 dollar no value kit. You can replace worn hardware with period correct same item pieces, and increase value. You cannot undo a rewrap except with another rewrap, and that will never increase value, unless of course the original wrap is thrashed. But then, you didnt pay a grand for a crappy looking drumset, did you?

The Drum Gods will never smile on you again. Your kick pedal will squeak, and all of your cymbal sleeves will prematurely rot, causing untimely keyholing on everything.

Cleveland from aprox. 1962-late 64 were three ply keller shells.

Cleveland from late 64/early 65 through 1966 were five ply keller shells.

Dayton transition, 66 into 67, flat gray interiors are the same five ply keller.

Dayton speckled gray, 67/68 through the Fullerton move in 69 are the same five ply keller.

Fullerton through 72 are five ply.

Fullerton 9/72 tagged drums 72 through 75 are three ply keller, with some overlap into the first big R drums.

Fullerton Big R 75/76 through 79 are five ply.

Fullerton Big R XP8 1979-1984 end of production are eight ply all maple keller.

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 14 years ago
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I think if you intend on just playing the kit and don't mind the "vintage drum collecters" calling you names, then go for it. It will decrease the value, but unlike some of the vintage nuts around here, I think if the rewap is done professionally you could still turn around and sell it for $700, the main thing is that the kit sounds good, let's see some pictures.x-mas3

Posted on 14 years ago
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Oh....... by the way, there are some folks who would pay a thousand dollars for that 14x14 floor tom by itself. No one will for a rewrap. Or is your 14 one of those ulltra rare 14x16 deep floor toms?

Rogers Drums Big R era 1975-1984 Dating Guide.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=24048
Posted on 14 years ago
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Why re-wrap?If you don't like BDP......sell it to someone who does,then,buy a kit in the finish you like,and go on vacation with the profit you made on the BDP Jass kit.

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 14 years ago
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From blairndrums

Why re-wrap?If you don't like BDP......sell it to someone who does,then,buy a kit in the finish you like,and go on vacation with the profit you made on the BDP Jass kit.

Great advice. I think I will leave them as is.

Thanks everyone. Hope they sound good.

Posted on 14 years ago
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From The Ploughman

You dont have to take the heads off, just peak through the vent hole. Nothing wrong with a rewrap if you dont mind turning your thousand dollar investment into a 300 dollar no value kit. You can replace worn hardware with period correct same item pieces, and increase value. You cannot undo a rewrap except with another rewrap, and that will never increase value, unless of course the original wrap is thrashed. But then, you didnt pay a grand for a crappy looking drumset, did you?The Drum Gods will never smile on you again. Your kick pedal will squeak, and all of your cymbal sleeves will prematurely rot, causing untimely keyholing on everything. Cleveland from aprox. 1962-late 64 were three ply keller shells.Cleveland from late 64/early 65 through 1966 were five ply keller shells.Dayton transition, 66 into 67, flat gray interiors are the same five ply keller. Dayton speckled gray, 67/68 through the Fullerton move in 69 are the same five ply keller. Fullerton through 72 are five ply.Fullerton 9/72 tagged drums 72 through 75 are three ply keller, with some overlap into the first big R drums.Fullerton Big R 75/76 through 79 are five ply. Fullerton Big R XP8 1979-1984 end of production are eight ply all maple keller.

Thanks for clearing up the differences. I really appreciate it.

Posted on 14 years ago
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Just found out the drums all have Dayton tags. Are these less desirable than clevelands? If so why? Difference in sound?

Posted on 14 years ago
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no difference in design......just different tags!.......Circa 1966 your drums are.........

"Always make sure your front bottom BD lugs clear the ground!"
Posted on 14 years ago
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As a collector I prefer early Cleveland beavertails drums over Dayton era. There is a difference (to me) in how they play, but most will tell you they don't hear a difference. They are all great drums. (Remember the early beavertail kits had three ply shells which helps account for some of the differences.)

Don't sell short BDP until you see it in person. It doesn't photograph well, but looks great in person. You got a good buy on the kit. Enjoy.

Posted on 14 years ago
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