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Fair price for a 70's Black Beauty? Last viewed: 20 seconds ago

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From mendozart

John Bonham never used a BB, or even a COB. He liked the drier sound of the 402.

Maybe JHB = Japanese head bangers?

Posted on 11 years ago
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From mendozart

From what I've heard, the 70's BB's were Bronze shelled. Definitely a different sound compared to the brass models, which I think makes them more desireable.

Quick question; does a "B" stamped on a black beauty indicate brass, bronze or B-stock for that matter? I have a Monroe baged BB with a B stamp.

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From mendozart

John Bonham never used a BB, or even a COB. He liked the drier sound of the 402.

That used to be my impression, and indeed that has been written many places. However, Jeff Ocheltree has mentioned that he used one on some tracks on In Through The Out Door.

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From equipmentdork

That used to be my impression, and indeed that has been written many places. However, Jeff Ocheltree has mentioned that he used one on some tracks on In Through The Out Door.Dan

Yes indeed. Although I've never seen a BB of that vintage. I mean the ones they made from the reissue in 1977. They seem to be quite rare?

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They are quite rare which justifies there price.I think the re-issues were only manufactured for a 5 yr. run(1977-82?-b/o badge)But if the experts in this field will chime in here we`ll have a much better read of this...

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From tnsquint

Quick question; does a "B" stamped on a black beauty indicate brass, bronze or B-stock for that matter? I have a Monroe baged BB with a B stamp.

B means brass shell, it also happen to see BZ which means bronze. Very late 70's through 80's

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From mendozart

From what I've heard, the 70's BB's were Bronze shelled. Definitely a different sound compared to the brass models, which I think makes them more desireable.

The first incarnation of the BB reissue 77-78, was a brass shell and most have a white sticker inside that says "Seemless Brass Shell", I think 79-82 were all bronze. Don't quote me on that.

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From new_user

The first incarnation of the BB reissue 77-78, was a brass shell and most have a white sticker inside that says "Seemless Brass Shell", I think 79-82 were all bronze. Don't quote me on that.

That sounds about right. I did forget that there were Brass also.

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From new_user

The first incarnation of the BB reissue 77-78, was a brass shell and most have a white sticker inside that says "Seemless Brass Shell", I think 79-82 were all bronze. Don't quote me on that.

A mixture of both I believe, denoted by a stamp just above the dampner knob. Can't remember the code right now.

My 70's BB 6.5 is just wonderful. Can get a little dark in the studio track after track so I always swap out, but if I only had one snare.............

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From snurf

B means brass shell, it also happen to see BZ which means bronze. Very late 70's through 80's

Thanks so much. I had thought that was the case.

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