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Duplex 15 1/2" Snare, NOB

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Hi Gang,

Living in St. Louis and being a Vintage Drum enthusiast, I of course had to have a Duplex in my collection.

Usually they fall WAY outta my price range. However a week ago I won an e-bay auction for a 16" Steel Shell Duplex Snare.

We all know its not steel.

So for a tidy sum I won the drum and it arrived today.

WOW

Is a Nickle over Brass shell, very very thin brass and an even thinner layer of Nickle, with a wood band at the center of the shell.

The shell has very wide snare beds and has only one end of a "strainer", which appears to be the tension adjustment.

The odd part is, there is no "butt" end, or even holes for one in the shell or rim....how was the butt end fastened? Anyone???

The tension end of the strainer is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship. A tube lug has had a slot machined into the back to give a travel range of adjustment. The mounting bolt has an extended pin end to it that allows for a travel stop, simple and elegant.

The snare jaws are like that of modern strainers, two bolts and a pair of jaws to grab the ends.

Inside the Brass hoops are wood bands as well that make up the bulk of the rim thickness. The NOB wrap is simply that..a wrap. One bottom of each rim, there are roman numerals stamped into the wood. Each rim is different.

All of the hardware is fastened by a single machine screw from the inside of the shell/rim.

Every tension rod boss is an individual unit on the rim, each a little different from the other.

The Tube lugs have "Duplex" cast into their bases around the face and are threaded inside for the tension rods.

Some of them have come loose from the pedestal and can spin, others remain tight as new.

The tension rods appear to be mostly correct, with 2 screws used to replace the two missing tension rods.

The grommet/badge,

At first I thought it was steel, rusty and old.

Upon closer inspection, the actual vent grommet is wooden! The badge around it is NOB like the rest of the drum. The wooden vent grommet is

glued/pressed into the shells wooden band....still solid and unmovable.

The heads that came with appear to be calf, only a small hole in the batter head.

So far I've disassembled the drum shell, cleaned it and hydrated the VERY dry interior ring.

The shell has been cleaned in the past with something far to abrasive as the nickle is worn thin between the lugs.

Under the lugs and flesh hoops its shiny as the day it was made!

I still need to clean the lugs, strainer, rims etc.

But for now, I've got it and am so happy to have this piece of local, and percussion as a whole, history in my collection.

many pics to come, so hang tight!

If you have ANY info as to how the snares we're attached w/o a butt plate, please let me know.

Im also looking for a set of 16" (actually 15 1/2") correct "wires" as well. Im guessing they were gut back then.

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in order to affix the snare wire to the other side, you need this type of leather piece that threads the cord. of course now i look for photos and can find none of what i'm talking about, but just imagine a rectangular piece of leather with holes in it... voila!

you could use the puresound extended wires and tie them off in whatever fashion you wanted, or use a plastic or fabric strap on one end with a more modern contraption. either way it will hold against the side of the drum.

nice find! i'm hoping to get one similar to that some day.

cheers,

jesse

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That's a nice one Shawn. Hope you get it up and running.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
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thank you both!

Jesse, where would the leather strap affix to on the "butt" end?

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correction on my initial post now that I am cleaning all the parts.

The tube lugs are in fact threaded inside for the tension rods.

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Shawn, really cool snare~! I hope to add something old to my collection someday. That one is a beauty for sure!

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
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Hi Shawn,

Cool drum you're working on there!

The leather 'butt' which Jesse is talking about is simply held against the bottom hoop by the snares. It's pretty low tech stuff but that's how it was done up until the 1910s, later by some companies on some models.

Two pics attached: The first is a leather butt end, the second is made from a fiber material. You can fashion your own from scrap belt leather if you're handy with large scissors and a drill.

The original snares on your drum were likely gut. New gut is available through Cooperman but it is challenging to work with.

Keep us posted on the clean up!

-Lee

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Lee!!!!! Clapping Happy2

Thank you, thats WAY more simple then what I was envisioning, Laughing H

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Any ideas on where I can score 15 1/2" drum heads?

The flesh hoops on the calf are whacky and splayed out (is there a way to fix this?) I could always re-tuck them but have a feeling the hoops are no good.

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