Yeah, so tell us something we don't know!...Lol...I seem to recall someone trying everything in the book to discredit the validity of two 14x24" Oaklawn era cloud badged bass drums without re-rings...Lol...If I believed everything I saw or read I would have passed on the 1st one when it came up for sale. (Like some forum members did. ) I knew it was the real deal, that's why I didn't hesitate when the second one arrived on the scene from Ryan.(The music store drum tech from the midwest) Now it seems they are the only two that have not been drilled or modified for after market hardware. And no they are not like the 3ply Ludwig and Slingerland shells but sound like, and resemble the early Gretsch shells made by Jasper.They even have the same bearing edges.. My God do those bass drums slay... Stedi, Ever notice on page 4 of the Oaklawn catalog with the triple tom set on the cover, that the bass drum tom mount is facing backwards on the Blue Moire kit, like on your two up maple kit.
Funny how you like to put words in my mouth. I never tried to discredit those shells. What I needed was more info, more examples as that is an odd one. But I also would like to see an Oaklawn 24 w/ rings now. Because now I'm begining to think they might not exist.