60's Ludwigs sound like 50's Slingerlands... :) grin
Slingerland Quality? Last viewed: 2 hours ago
49 - WFL Ray McKinley - 26, 13, 16
58 - Slingerland Duco
58 - Slingerland Krupa Deluxe
70 - Ludwig Champagne Sparkle - 20, 12, 14
70 - Ludwig Champagne Sparkle - 22 (need), 13, 16
And some others..
Ludwig by far out produced Slingerland. It is no wonder or simple mystery that there are tons more Ludwig products out there for sale. Slingerlands quality of shells was not to be questioned,far superior to Ludwigs. As stated earlier in this thread, Slingerland hardware was the problem if there was one with this company. Slingerland catered more to the jazz and big band drummers as did Gretsch. Ludwig was favored by rock drummers. There is a difference in the sound between Ludwig and Slingerland that must be determined by and for each individual drummer. My take on this is Slingerland sound much warmer and fuller whereas Ludwig are more of a punchy tight and quick sounding drum. Both companies made some great stuff. To say who was better imo I'd say Slingerland %100. It is hard to beat or match that true early american drum sound. Once you play a nice vintage kit you understand the reason we are so searching out these kits. Rogers was the innovation side of drums. There hardware was new and advanced for the day. Rogers 60's drums sound good but again I'll choose Slingerland.
I think when the narrator said "higher quality drums" she might have meant, compared to the market in general not just other high quality manufacturers.
As for Ludwig garnering more obsession, snooter hits it on the head. they just made more drums, and unusually the models of economics don't quite apply here. I really don't know if you can break fans down to cede to different brands. most guys might have a favourite kit or snare but usually it is the kit itself they love and then the brand.
- Justin
In the 60's, if we are talking precision of bearing edges and roundness of shells Rogers beats Ludwig and Slingerland. Am I right?
Isaac
Depends on the individual kit. Ludwig edges and Slingerland edges were meant to be different than Rogers ... By design. You really couldn't compare them. My Slingerland and Ludwig edges are very nice. The only edgework I've had done this year was for my Rogers kit - due to neglect and a bit of imprecision. So, no. I do not agree.
I have not seen many Camco kits,but have seen and played a few of all the others,and some of the best drums I have heard have been slingys.I think rogers build quality was really good and QC was excellent,that being said I have a Rogers cleveland era kit and one of the bearing edges on the 12' tom has a pretty deep crescent dip in it.It runs from one lug to the next and it is deep enough to where I am thinking you would rather build it up rather than cut the rest of the drum to make it even.The drum looks original so I guess it can happen with any make.
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i vote slingerland
Good question. I know that say 7 years ago...there were only 2-3 pages of Slingerland "stuff" on Ebay as opposed to 30 pages of Ludwig. Now there is a little more out there, but nothing compared to Ludwig. I guess you can chalk it up to guys like Ringo, Bonham, Mitchell, Baker, etc.
not sure Ringo should be considered an arbiter of good taste in drums. but Ivor Arbiter was and when he took Ringo in to choose a new set of Trixons he just happened to have a pile of wrap samples on his desk from Ludwig and Ringo chose his first Ludwigs because he liked the colour. he was a bit vain you know and once Ludwig and the Black Oyster became branded with the Beatles , there was no turning back. basically, at that time in England it was important to be cool and American drums were considered cool. it wouldn't have mattered what the drums sounded like as long as they were cool. it was and is, all about vanity.
As I understand it, throughout the 1960's Ludwig shells weren't made quite as consistently as Slingerland drums, probably due to the overwhelming demand for Ludwig and as a result there are some 60's Ludwig drums that are real "dogs" (to quote a term I remember once reading).
As I understand it, throughout the 1960's Ludwig shells weren't made quite as consistently as Slingerland drums, probably due to the overwhelming demand for Ludwig and as a result there are some 60's Ludwig drums that are real "dogs" (to quote a term I remember once reading).
I sure love my "dogs". That's funny.
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