Isn't is an audiophilic sin to have CDs sitting on top of a turntable?

:):)

Okay... My other hobby is Amateur Radio, and I can and do maintain most of my equipment. Especially the tube stuff (yep, it still is around and works great). I never had McIntosh, but I did have a nice Dynaco (kit) seperates system that I built and it was superb. My hearing is shot on the high end (all those years with cymbals?) and I sold the stuff about seven or eight years ago... All I have now is an mp3 player and nice headphones...

I feel the same about drums. With decent, not dented or worn out heads. Most anything will sound okay. Good enough for the gigs I do anyway. I swap around the different kits I use just out of boredom. I tune the kits, sure. But my thing is why obsess over it. If you find the sweet spot, and it's where you want it. I'm good. And frankly, in all the gigs I've played, I've never had anyone come up and tell me my drums were out of tune...

Soap Box

That a Revox A77 sitting under a Nakamichi cassette deck? Nice!

It's definately possible to get carried away with the sounds of anything. I got crazy for a little while trying to clone the sound I heard elsewhere... Now I work to sound different... sound like ME!!!

Kevins-probably yes. I used to do a lot of different CD compilations...so things got messey.

fishwaltz- Trust your instincts.

Batterhead-Revox B-77 and Nakamichi 1000 II---yes.

vexorgtr---Sound like you!

IMHO.

David

Interesting subject!

I would like to add one thing:

When I was a kid, my hearing was perfect.....but I couldn't "hear" anything in music because I didn't know how to listen to music. As I grew older and my abilities to listen got better, I would sit for hours, listening, listening, listening...with a pair of those HUGE Stanton headphones (remember?) to any and all things musical (mostly Led Zeppelin). As time went on, I began to really hear the music, but I had also begun the path to noise-induced hearing loss.

So, now, 40 years later, I have lost a pretty good chunk of my hearing...BUT I have mastered listening to music and therefore can extract things from it that I couldn't hear when my hearing was perfect! Of course, I can't hear the timer on the stove or the dishwasher beeping, but who cares? right?? ExcitedDoes that make sense????

Oh...and one other thing...

My first stereo was one of those things that had AM/FM radio, record player and 8-track cassette deck! WhoooHOO!! It was really good at bringing out the worst in whatever was played on it and it only allowed so much "fidelity" to come through. Nowadays, I have a nice McIntosh system. The difference in fidelity is quite a bit better now(to say the least!) I remember when I first got a good sound system....it was like I got a brand new set of ears! I could hear a lot more of the music because the quality of the system was facilitating that.

When I started this thread it was not intended to be about sound systems….but rather about the sometimes endless quest in tuning drums….and when is good sound… good enough…or is it a never ending search for something that is just a bit beyond reach.

Are vintage drums like the tube sound of vintage stereo systems?

I am sure I don’t know.

I agree with you O-Lugs listening to music is perhaps something that is learned over time particularly if you are a musician.

Learning to really listen is not necessarily a god given gift….often it is learned over time …sometimes never.

As a spouse that doesn’t get listened to.

In my opinion as a drummer, to hear every player in the band and what they are doing is critical…in order to complement them.

No question a great sound system allows you to hear dynamics in the music that are more obscure on lesser quality equipment.

But when do you stop and say ….that is good enough for me. …including the sound of your drums???

That is when you put the whole subject out of your mind and just play your drums...or listen to the music on whatever sound system you have.

The ML 4 C McIntosh speakers (1971-1977 vintage) I bought second hand from the dealer (1979) that first brought McIntosh to Montreal….they were part of his personal sound system.

I bought all the other McIntosh stuff new back in March 1979.

The sound out of these old speakers is powerful, mellow and full… and the McIntosh MC2205 amp is pretty close to the old tube sound.

Somewhat like old vintage drums????

David

I'd be more worried about the sagging shelves, that's one of my personal

pet peeves - stacking killer audio equipment onto knock down

style press board cabinets. :) You have to build yourself some proper

shelving to hold your cool gear. My stuff is junk but my site built cabinets

are sturdy! hehe

Those Klipsch aren't junk... :)

I'm running Bose 601s with a Klipsch sub, center and two surrounds, and I'm very happy.

Pushing it with a mid size Denon.

I mainly just listen to the 601s in stereo, but I love my Klipsch too.