Only Admins can see this message.
Data Transition still in progress. Some functionality may be limited until the process is complete.
Processing Attachment, Gallery - 186.37996%

First Post here...Slingy question

Guest
Loading...

Hi All,

This is my first post and question here at the "Vintage Drum Forum".

I have a late 50's possibly early 60's 5.5 X 14 Radio King that my father gave me when I was a kid. He neglected to tell me what a gem this drum was and I was too young to understand what I had in my possession. The drum took a lickin' for several years. It's still a fine instrument. I would like to bring the drum back to life and slowly restore it to it's period correct condition. I know I need several parts. I'm in the process of taking the drum apart to see exactly what is missing or in need of repair. The first thing I see is there is re-ring separation on the batter side. I will research older post on this topic but if you have links that can direct me , I would appreciate that. I will get some photos together to post but I would like opinions on how to fix this. Glue and clamps would be my guess as a starting point. I don't think it's bad enough to warrant re-ring removal and starting over. I would not know how to do that . I have seen some "repairs" on re-rings that look as though the gap has merely been filled in with glue . If fact I'm thinking of purchasing another drum with that same scenario . Does this change the sound of the drum? My guess would be no but I don't build drums..... Thanks in advance. I have learned so much from everyones posts on this wonderful forum.

Posted on 14 years ago
#1
Loading...

Welcome to the board! A fine snare drum you have, we would all love to see pictures! Re-ring repair is pretty easy, a syringe works the best for getting the glue into the cracks, then just clamp and dry. I suggest putting something between your clamp and the actual drum shell and ring, the clamps can leave flat spots which is not what you want obviously. I use some old cut up pieces of drum shells. There are lots of threads on how to fix re-rings in the repair section.

Posted on 14 years ago
#2
Loading...

Welcome!

Re-ring separation is pretty common on older drums. It's a simple fix (glue and clamps) and I've never noticed any negative affect on sound. Makes sense, I guess, since that's the same way they were originally attached.

Here's how I've done the repair:

[list]

[*] Dry-fit everything and make sure the pieces fit and line up. Can you get the re-ring aligned with the shell?

[*] Gather lots of clamps. If you don't have enough to clamp down the full separation, you may be left with gaps. You don't want to screw up a great drum for lack of a two-buck clamp.

[*] Using a good-quality wood glue like Titebond II or Titebond III, force glue into the separation. (Other people may use other kinds of glues -- there's more than one way to skin the proverbial cat.) Some people use syringes to squirt glue in, but I've used my finger to simply push glue into the split and work it down. Wipe off the excess with a damp cloth or paper towel.

[*] Clamp the re-ring to the shell, taking care to align it as best you can. If you don't have clamps with non-marring jaws, make sure you put a piece of scrap material between the clamps' jaws and your drum. You don't want those clamps to put a bunch of dents in your drum! I use pieces of scrapped drum shells since they're already bent to match the curve of the drum. Apply clamps every 1"-2" over the entire distance of the glued joint. When glue squeezes out of the clamped joint, wipe it off.

[*] Let the glue dry or cure, remove clamps, reassemble & tune the drum, and make some noise!

[/list]

Oh, and don't forget to post pics. They'll help some of the knowledgeable folks here guide you, and besides, we like to look at 'em. :)

Posted on 14 years ago
#3
Loading...

Sky Dog, I have a quick question about your clamping method. I have a 22" bass drum to re-glue at several spots around the drum. At a clamp per 1"to 2" that will take a bunch of clamps I don't have. Can I re-glue a section at a time or would that cause problems because the glue would dry with a gap at the end of the section? Sorry to hi-jack the thread but when I read your re-glue method the question came to mind. I'm getting ready to rehab a 62' Slingerland 14x22. Thanks!

Posted on 14 years ago
#4
Loading...

Welcome to the VDF, and good advice has been given already!

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
#5
Loading...

From Boscoe

Sky Dog, I have a quick question about your clamping method. I have a 22" bass drum to re-glue at several spots around the drum. At a clamp per 1"to 2" that will take a bunch of clamps I don't have. Can I re-glue a section at a time or would that cause problems because the glue would dry with a gap at the end of the section? Sorry to hi-jack the thread but when I read your re-glue method the question came to mind. I'm getting ready to rehab a 62' Slingerland 14x22. Thanks!

Welcome BBeat!

Boscoe, I did that with a 60 Slingy RK a section at a time with no ill effects. I only had a few sections that needed to be reattached though. I also had some small gaps that did not meet so I made a mixture of sawdust and glue and filled in those gads. It worked out pretty good although the mahogany sawdust I had dried darker than the mahogany ply so it looks odd.

Posted on 14 years ago
#6
Guest
Loading...

Thanks all! You have answered my question regarding gluing and clamping my drum and I will do my best and take it slow.

What do you think about this other drum that I described that I might purchase? Again , it looks like someone just filled in the gaps between the re-rings and the shell ply. It's also a Radio King. I'm in the market for a 7X14" 1938-early 40's.....I'm most interested in how this drum will record. Of course I want the drum to look good but I'm more of a player , not a true collector..... If anyone has one for sale , please let me know.

Thanks

Posted on 14 years ago
#7
  • Share
  • Report
Action Another action Something else here