Have you looked in the Ludwig section ?... Your badge is probably there, and will help with dating it.

Best I could guess was the 1920s color badge. But I'm not very good at this. It looks like it has gold paint on it, not natural coloring?

Yes, also looking for value if anyone has an opinion.

Edit: added photo after almost two hours with some orange oil (or pine?) graffiti remover and a bunch of q-tips.

No white on this one which I'll guess makes it the 1920's?

I have a similar drum, but in a 26" size instead. No Ludwig badge though on mine, which I thought was odd,.. still makes me wonder if it is missing???. Same Ludwig marked grommets/washers though just like yours. Looks to be of early to mid 1920s vintage.

Yes, you can certainly restore it and make it playable! No good old drum should sit on a shelf and collect dust! Mr. Ludwig never intended his masterpieces of craftsmanship to lay dormant!;)

I'm learning a lot myself, especially as of recent. I am curious as to the little trap door though. Haven't read of that yet as being something from the factory, but anything's possible I suppose. I just got in a Ludwig book yesterday and haven't had time to really sit and study it yet,..."YET" that is!

As far as value, I paid a little under $100 for mine,... and was in far better condition as far as finish goes... that's all I can really say as I'm not a collector like some of the fellows on here. I suppose all restored it could fetch a few good bucks,... right now I can't imagine much myself. I saw a dual tension bass, size 28" bring $200 at a local auction about two weeks ago... just for comparison. About the same vintage.

Could be a nice drum for you...what are you plans with it??

I plan to fix or replace the bent tension rods and get the missing pieces, the missing guide, two outer mounting washers and some larger washers for the inside. Then take some old clip on hoop spurs from the parts box, try to make the old pedal work, and have a vintage bass drum.

The trap door, while old brass with a nice latch and brass hinges, for looking inside the drum, was cut out of the drum. No it's not a factory option. The light bulb mount needs to go.

Problem is, I don't know what this was supposed to look like? The hardware is painted gold, but I don't think it's supposed to be that way. The paint job has drips and blobs. There are black paint finger prints on the inside. The hoops have white paint under the black. I see gold under some of the hardware.

That's why I hope someone can tell me what it's supposed to look like?

But in the end, I want to play it as a vintage set some day. Function is much more important than having it sitting in the warehouse on a shelf. Value is for fun, when someone says "what's it worth" but my personal reward will be the day I play it with the band or at a jam.

Maybe I should have typed less, but I'm looking for parts to complete this bass drum. Please PM me.

Also does anyone know what the original paint may have looked like? I see the black, which has runs in it and blobs. Under some of the hardware I see gold, but that may have been another repaint. It says "Black" inside but I don't know what that means in the 1920-30's. Did they do the stripe down the middle, which may have been gold or white? or just solid black? Hoops show white under the black.

Were these made with gold painted hardware or plain brass color? I may need to do some paint removal there as well.

So any ideas on what a BD of this era looked like, would be helpful.

I'll strip the gold off the badge first and see if it's white enamel under all the paint. Could it be a 30's drum?

Can you post some pics, it sounds like your describing a duco color? black and gold

First message in the thread has pictures, or do you mean more detailed close-ups of the mess/lamp?

The idea I had for refinishing it would be something like this Slingerland that's in the gallery here. (sweet!) http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10896

Mostly wondering if that would be the correct paint job.

Might as well ask, when did they start wrapping drums?

!st off thats my drum set and that is black gold duco, and yes your drum could of had this color also, 2nd this color is very hard to do correctly and expensive! wrap drums have been around since the early 20's but back in the old days painted drums cost more than wrapped did, as opposed to today where the reverse holds true>