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The only REMO heads produced today that are EXACTLY LIKE 1970s !!

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SOooooo...

I've come to this conclusion. The only REMO brand heads in production today that are exactly as they would have been in the 1970s are as follows:

A) REMO CS Batter, Clear with Black Dot

B) REMO Vintage Emperors (2 7.5 plies, just as in the '70s. And by the way, are the vintage Ambassadors a take on an actual '70s Ambassador??)

That's it...and possibly...

C) REMO Smooth white.

The reason I say possibly is because while I've seen bass drum heads from the '70s that were definitely smooth white, I can't say if they were 2 7.5 plies like they're made today.

I realize this is a lot to take in, but I just really want to know my options. The only opinions I seek regarding heads are those having to do with the exact same heads remo produced in the '70s. '60s and '50s friendly too.

EDIT PLEASE MOVE TO MAINTENANCE FORUM! THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!!

Posted on 8 years ago
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I'm a tad confused. Your options for the best heads for your kit? Why would you only want heads that haven't changed much since the '70s?

18 Kits & 40+ snares..
Not a Guru, just addicted to drums

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Posted on 8 years ago
#2
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Let's tackle one confusion at a time. First I just want to find out what heads REMO produces today that are exactly as they were in the 1970s. Thanks ahead of time.

Posted on 8 years ago
#3
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I wouldn`t think any of them would be the same...Over time, materials and quality control can change, thus, changing the end product...

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 8 years ago
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From grantro

I wouldn`t think any of them would be the same...Over time, materials and quality control can change, thus, changing the end product...Cheers

Agreed with Rod, they are very much different heads, now. the new remo coated heads I can wear the coating out in minutes where I hit the heads at constantly, With the 70's heads it took me a few days to wear the coating thru. also not the same glue that was from the 70's or plastic either.Also a different sound, not a huge difference but still different.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 8 years ago
#5
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Interesting because I have a NOS '70s CS batter head and a brand new CS batter from now and they look/feel exactly the same!

Posted on 8 years ago
#6
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Remo smooth white are 2 ply today??

Found it!!
Posted on 8 years ago
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From SongJohn

And by the way, are the vintage Ambassadors a take on an actual '70s Ambassador??)

the answer to this question is no. The Vintage Ambassadors are a take on the true original ambassador, which was available only briefly.

The first Weatherkings were available only in 7.5mil and 3mil, which turned out to be a bit on the thin/flimsy side, so before dupont came out with the 10mil mylar that would eventually become the "Ambassador" as we know it today, Remo began producing a head called the Ambassador that consisted of a ply of 7.5 over a ply of 3mil. These were replaced with 10mil film as soon as it became available. I think these original 2 ply ambassadors were only available for a very brief window in the late 50's early 60s.

Posted on 8 years ago
#8
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From SongJohn

Interesting because I have a NOS '70s CS batter head and a brand new CS batter from now and they look/feel exactly the same!

Just because they look and feel the same, doesn`t mean they are!! You should contact Remo and ask them...

Cheers

1976 Ludwig Mach 4 Thermogloss 26-18-14-14sn
1978 Ludwig Stainless 22-22-18-16-14-13-12 c/w 6-8-10-12-13-14-15-16-18-20-22-24 concert toms
1975 Sonor Phonic Centennials Metallic Pewter 22-16-13-12-14sn (D506)
1971 Ludwig Classic Bowling Ball OBP 22-16-14-13
1960's Stewart Peacock Pearl 20-16-12-14sn
1980`s Ludwig Coliseum Piano Black 8x14 snare
1973 Rogers Superten 5x14 & 6.5x14 COS snares
1970`s John Grey Capri Aquamarine Sparkle 5x14 snare
1941 Ludwig & Ludwig Super 8x14 snare
Posted on 8 years ago
#9
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Well I'm inclined to assume they're the same. After all, what changes in mylar or polyester?? Buying a regular set of nickel plated guitar strings in 1969 is exactly the same as buying a regular set of nickel plated steel guitar strings today. I don't know why guys are trying to cast such a mystery over these things. I'm telling you, the '70s CS black dot is the same. I'd put money on it.

Yes, the logo is smaller than the new generation of REMOs. And yes, when they make guitar strings now they use different ball ends or tying methods. But the thing's is basically the same as it was in the '70s. You guys gotta have faith lol.

Posted on 8 years ago
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