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Are 8 lug snares more more likely to break heads? Or differently phrased, is there something about an 8 lug snare that would make it more likely to break a head?

I am a somewhat heavy handed drummer and typically play more modern ten lugged snares (although an aluminum 1970 Ludwig is on standard rotation) and wear a head out before I break one. However I just recently played a 60's vintage wood snare and immediately broke two snare heads.

Is there something about the different tension on an 8 lugger that would make it easier to break a head? Could it have something to do with the bearing edges?

Posted on 9 years ago
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Really sounds like your just a gorilla on the snare drum! What make and model of snare head are you using? A good recommendation for you would be a 2-ply head with a reinforcing patch in the center. As for your original question, no, there's nothing about an 8-lug snare that would make it more likely to break heads. As for myself, I've never broken a drum head. Sticks, yes...heads, no!

-Mark

Posted on 9 years ago
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From idrum4fun

Really sounds like your just a gorilla on the snare drum! What make and model of snare head are you using? A good recommendation for you would be a 2-ply head with a reinforcing patch in the center. As for your original question, no, there's nothing about an 8-lug snare that would make it more likely to break heads. As for myself, I've never broken a drum head. Sticks, yes...heads, no!-Mark

Ha! Yes I guess so. It is a (65?) Premier Royal Ace and it had an Evans Genera Dry with a control ring. The other was admittedly not really a snare batter head but was a brand new Aquarian Galaxy that I had lying around. I had recently replaced it with an EC2 on a 14" floor tom. Kind of shocking that they both broke. Wondering if, for some reason, that particular snare doesn't like the high tuning I usually use.

I typically just use a G2 on my other snares and my Acro has an Evans reverse dot that I feel like I beat the hell out of and haven't broken.

Posted on 9 years ago
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Like Mark said, no difference in 8 or 10 lug regarding drum head durability. Only difference i've noticed is that the tuning range is wider on a 10 lug snare drum than on an 8.. Maybe extremely tight tensioning of the batter head, coupled with your caveman bashing(;)) is causing you to break through heads. Most heads can withstand a beating, but if you're breaking them on a regular basis, you might wanna rethink your technique, or it's gonna cost you a pretty penny every year for snare drum heads. Yes Sir.

Posted on 9 years ago
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From Robzilla

Could it have something to do with the bearing edges?

Yes check for proud and sharp anomalies along the edge. Where on the head do you hit?

Mitch

Posted on 9 years ago
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From human71

Like Mark said, no difference in 8 or 10 lug regarding drum head durability. Only difference i've noticed is that the tuning range is wider on a 10 lug snare drum than on an 8.. Maybe extremely tight tensioning of the batter head, coupled with your caveman bashing(;)) is causing you to break through heads. Most heads can withstand a beating, but if you're breaking them on a regular basis, you might wanna rethink your technique, or it's gonna cost you a pretty penny every year for snare drum heads. Yes Sir.

Breaking a snare head is an anomaly for me, which is why I asked. Maybe it's the excitement of using a vintage snare gave me some extra verve!

Posted on 9 years ago
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From DownTownFarmer

Yes check for proud and sharp anomalies along the edge. Where on the head do you hit?Mitch

I tend to angle my snare slightly toward the kick. I would say I hit center mostly, but cheat toward 2 o'clock.

Posted on 9 years ago
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From Robzilla

I tend to angle my snare slightly toward the kick. I would say I hit center mostly, but cheat toward 2 o'clock.

Take the batter head off and run your finger lightly along the bearing edge to check for anything that might cut the head under impact from the stick.

HTH

Mitch

Posted on 9 years ago
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I don't believe the amount of tension jugs would cause significant stress anomalies which would make it easier to break heads. I cannot imagine breaking a snare head. I never even break sticks:p

Some people are simply animals :lol: I played in place of a drummer one gig and used his kit. I tell ya that it looked like a sawmill around the hi hat and snare and big chunks were taken out of his cymbals. I have never seen anyone play so heavy handed.

Posted on 9 years ago
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I may have solved the problem. After mentioning I sometimes cheat to about 2 O'clock when hitting my snare head it occurred to me that the muffler happens to be located in that position. I tool a look at the broken heads and sure enough they both seem to have broken at that spot.

Looking at the Royal Ace muffler, it is a small twin job and one of the felts is worn off, exposing the metal beneath. I think what may have happened is that, although I didn't have the muffle engaged, it was very close to the head and the felt-less muffler tore the head when I hit just above it.

I made sure the muffler was fully disengaged today and played without incident for several hours.

Posted on 9 years ago
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