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This Mitch Mitchell set is a black wrap and the sizes are 9x13, 16x16, and a 12x22 bass drum. The traditional bass drum depth of this era was 14", however, some drummers including Ginger Baker, preferred the quick response of shallower depths. As a result, Ludwig would make the size to suit the artist's needs. The drums are unique in that there are no ventholes in any of the drums and no badges on the 13 and the 16. In fact, the badge on the bass drum is glued to the shell, and there is no venthole there. The bass drum has a tom holder mounted onto the drum in the top panel, which is a bit different from the standard offset position. The floor tom also has an added Ludwig bracket near the top of the batter side. Brackets such as this were sometimes added so as to be able to mount a cowbell or other item. The tags from the Bonhams auction are still on the drums. Amazing piece of rock history Steve Maxwell

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Very cool never seen glued bagdes

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once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
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From orangemi

This Mitch Mitchell set is a black wrap and the sizes are 9x13, 16x16, and a 12x22 bass drum. The traditional bass drum depth of this era was 14", however, some drummers including Ginger Baker, preferred the quick response of shallower depths. As a result, Ludwig would make the size to suit the artist's needs. The drums are unique in that there are no ventholes in any of the drums and no badges on the 13 and the 16. In fact, the badge on the bass drum is glued to the shell, and there is no venthole there. The bass drum has a tom holder mounted onto the drum in the top panel, which is a bit different from the standard offset position. The floor tom also has an added Ludwig bracket near the top of the batter side. Brackets such as this were sometimes added so as to be able to mount a cowbell or other item. The tags from the Bonhams auction are still on the drums. Amazing piece of rock history Steve Maxwell

The location of the rail consolette would accommodate both left and right handed drummers. There a picture of a setup like that in the Ludwig book which is used to hold double toms. I would have thought the lack of air holes would choke the sound a bit.

Mark
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Yes, with no air moving around. I can't recall owning or playing any drums without a vent/badge hole. But hey, if it's good enough for Mitch Mitchell

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Nice-looking drums, especially with the gold sparkle inlay. These remind me of Gretsch round-badge black nitron drums; they didn't have vent holes either, did they?........marko

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Those are super cool ! I'm assuming that without the vent holes they would think that the drums would resonate more with no air flow to escape ? Isn't that why vent holes were created in the first place ? Whatever the case, it's a great looking set and whoever ends up owning it will be very lucky ..

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From human71

Those are super cool ! I'm assuming that without the vent holes they would think that the drums would resonate more with no air flow to escape ? Isn't that why vent holes were created in the first place ?

I'm not certain vent holes were originally installed for acoustic properties. I think they were installed to create an equilibrium between the outside and interior air temperature and humidity which would have greatly affected calfskin heads. Even without a vent, an impact on the batter head is still going to create a concussion wave of compressed air inside the drum which will strike the reso head generating a sound wave. A vent is only going to bleed off some of that compressed air, reducing the internal impact on the reso head. Imagine a shell full of vent holes like Swiss cheese. All the compressed air from the batter head would escape and never reach the reso head, and the reso head would never fibrate. I'm thinking no vent = louder drum. Just my guess on the subject, but I'd like to hear from an expert.

Mike

-No Guru... still learning more every day-
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anyone could plug theirs up and find out!

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My RK toms have no vent holes and sound just fantastic! A non issue. Cool Ludwigs and history!

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
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From FFR428

My RK toms have no vent holes and sound just fantastic! A non issue. Cool Ludwigs and history!

100% agreed !!

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
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