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Slighly larger top HH and smaller bottom question Last viewed: 16 hours ago

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I have a chipped bottom 602 SE cymbal that I want to get the edge smoothed on.

The company that does that it says I should get the top cymbal smoothed to the same size because it may lead to premature cracking of the top cymbal.

We're talking about an 1/8 inch difference between top and bottom.

Opinions?

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Posted on 9 years ago
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I wouldn't have the cymbal smoothed back. Just have it so the crack won't go any further, or smooth out inside the hole, and play them as is. That's supposing they sound great. They'll probably play quicker now you have a natural vent for the air.

Or if it's proper gone, done, finito then may I suggest scrapping the bottom hat and selling the top hat and moving on. You might also find a use with that bottom hat as some kind of stacker cymbal.

Just a thought.

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Posted on 9 years ago
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The top cymbal won't be supported for an 8th all the way around, so if you hit hard yes it could certainly crack. *IF* you hit hard...:)

Mitch

Posted on 9 years ago
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Why not go to the source for the answer? Try emailing Paiste. I've no doubt they will give you the final word on what to do.

Also, you might get even better replies by posting your info in the Cymbal section.

-Mark

Posted on 9 years ago
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Talk to Paiste. I don't know how much they will be able to help, but their advice can't be worse than cutting the outer edge off of your hats. Cutting cymbals down in size messes with their sound, a lot, and not in a good way unless you also get into lathing the top and bottom of the cymbal back down to a proper taper. There are very, very few people who can mess with a cymbal and get good results.

602 SE are amazing hats, and pretty pricey. Do you want to roll the dice and take a chance they will come back sounding, well, very different?

If I may make a suggestion, have the chip ground out so that it will not spread any further and carry on playing them.

Good luck with whatever you decide, let us know how it turns out.

Posted on 9 years ago
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I'd leave it. It's the bottom hat besides you'd have to hit it in that spot countless times for it to crack.

Posted on 9 years ago
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From idrum4fun

Why not go to the source for the answer? Try emailing Paiste. I've no doubt they will give you the final word on what to do.Also, you might get even better replies by posting your info in the Cymbal section.-Mark

What you saying? Our replies not good enough eh?

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Posted on 9 years ago
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Back in the day some pro guys used different sized HH cymbals. Max Roach used a pair where the top was a 13 over a 14 (or maybe it was a 14 over a 15) so 1/8th of an inch shouldn't be a problem. Heck, back then you were probably lucky if a pair of HH cymbals was within 1/8th inch of each other when new.

So I wouldn't sweat that small difference too much.

Posted on 9 years ago
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Saluda is the company that does this ,but I kind of had the same impression.

When you play your hats open ,there really is no bottom cymbal for support, plus if you use the set screw so that they are slightly askew to prevent air lock,essentially the same thing occurs.

Posted on 9 years ago
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Get a dremmel tool to it and cut the crack out. Once you decrease the radius of a cymbal you lose the overall shape and the profile is not the same and it seems like the bell is huge.

Posted on 9 years ago
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