I'm no LW guy but the 49 catalog shows a 8x12 for $48.50 among other sizes. Both pearl and painted finishes. Didn't see a 14x14 but there was a 12x14 whcih I'd guess was still a mounted tom size then. I didn't look at all the catalogs so you might see something in the 50's cats. Check out the Drum Guide here there's a zillion Ludwig catalog scans. Bet your WFL's sound fantastic too. Do they have mahogany interiors?

Thanks for the information. I just noticed the Super Classic bass drum and tom sizes in the catalogs, but wondering if there was a 12,14,20 outfit or were these drums sold as individual drums? Either way, I'm happy with the 13" tom as a rack tom. :)

Chromeo - Think about adding a 12"x15" converted marcher floor tom! Great drums, the size gives them some real balls. I have calf heads on mine and it rumbles and growls. It'll go good with the 13"/20" combination. You can get a good spread on the toms.

John

Thanks John, that's a great idea! Do you think they had those marchers with the classic lugs? I am seeing one of eBay in WMP that's a 12x17? 17 being the diameter. Seems like an oddball size, but it has the bow tie lugs and long Ts. I'll keep an eye on the marchers. I have a hoop mounted tom mount that I could possibly mount a floor tom to and use the rail consolete for the rack tom. I'm still waiting on the drums to arrive. I should have the rack tom and bass drum during the week. The snare I have ordered over a month ago and it's still not here. Canada post 4-6 weeks to get across the pond. I believe they put it on a raft and pushed it out to sea. :D

> I believe they put it on a raft and pushed it out to sea.

It'll get there, bud. Same deal from US to Canada and there is no body of water between us other than the Great Lakes. The hand-off from system to system is F'ked!

The 15" was just a suggestion. WMP marchers from the era do come up and they make excellent floor toms. Ask Mike Layton, he's a huge fan of 15"s. Me too! They sound great. Good luck with whatever you choose to go with. The 17" seems a bit out of place size-wise to me. 14", 15", even 16" is a better fit. The kit that Jeff veneered for me (all WFL orphan shells, the kit in the jingle-stick video that you complimented me on,) is 13", 15", 22". The sizes work. The only difference in your set-up would be the 20".

John

Cheers John, you had me at 15" floor tom! That sounds like a great idea! I'll be keeping an eye out for one. I'll put some photos up of the set when I have it pieced together.