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Vintage Drum story with a Burgundy HAPPY Ending Last viewed: 4 hours ago

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Here's a vintage drum story I hope you can appreciate.

I recently bought a 1966 Champagne Sparkle Club Date kit off the bay. You may have seen it a couple weeks ago. It had a matching Pioneer snare & a BIN price of 1400 OBO.

I offered & received a counter offer of 1300.00 with shipping included. Seller was located in Albuquerque NM. I was hesitant at first but it was real nice & that was not too far of a distance to ship.

I usually don't buy without seeing a kit in person.

I accepted the counter offer, made payment & sent a message to seller asking him to pack very well (even explained that a drum in a drum needs packing & why).

Well, last Thursday the 2 boxes showed up & I was absolutely speechless on the condition they showed up in.

The drums were packed so poorly I was amazed they were not completely destroyed all together. NO packing between the drum & outer box.

Rather then bore you with the ugly details, this story has a happy ending.

As I was packing these back up to be returned for a FULL refund Friday night (the 13th) I was talking to my wife, saying this is so sad to be sending a kit I looked for so long back because of this person's carelessness. How could they possibly be so negligent? (I have photos of the packing job as well). It was a sad evening indeed until I walked over to the computer & refreshed the local San Diego CL musical instrument page. Then that feeling hit me, my jaw dropped & there it was... Located just a 1/2 hour from me was one of the top 2 kits on my bucket list, a 1965 Ludwig Downbeat in Burgundy Sparkle for 1000.00.

I quickly made the call. At this point the ad had been up for maybe 2 hours. I found out I was #2 guy. #1 guy had an appointment to see the next morning at 8. If #1 guy does not show up or respond, I'm next.

Not good enough for me. I want this kit. I've been looking for this kit forever & I just got screwed over on the other dream kit. I text seller & offer him 1100. He says hang tight, he is going to contact #1 guy to see just how interested he is. #1 guy says no. I'm in. The ad is pulled as I confirm our meeting time. His phone/email continues to ring off the hook (even as we do the deal on Saturday morning).

Saturday morning I drop the damaged Club dates off at the post office to be returned for my refund. I did not want to do that & really was disappointed with the entire experience.

But then I drove & picked up the kit and once again, life has an amazing way of working out for the better.

And on an even happier note, these drums were bought from a fellow drummer in my local music scene. We play with many of the same folks, at the same venues & even shared some festival gigs together.

What a small world huh?

He was really happy the kit was going to such a Ludwig fan & fellow local drummer as myself. The kit will continue to be an active part in the San Diego music community.

So that's probably my best score ever, and on Friday the 13th.

How's the kit?

Barely any fade. Some seam lifting on the tom & FT but nothing that cannot be fixed. Structurally sound with all original bottom resonant heads & front logo head. No major dings, scratches or damage.

Front bass drum T-rods not original but those are an easy find. Date stamped May 26 1965 in bass drum & tom. White interiors. FT date stamp April 26 1965. White interior. White felt BB mufflers on both.

This is a matched kit, SN are: 164631 BD, 164616 Tom, 165170 FT. 20/14/12.

All original hardware decent & L cymbal arm included. Inlays there & hoops good. This was & will remain to be a very nice players kit. The plan is for a full restoration.

I'm going to do one gig this Friday with the kit AS IS (as it's tuned up REALLY nice now) before it's stripped, cleaned & brought back to it's original glory.

I'm still pinching myself to make sure I'm not dreaming..

A vintage drum story I hope you can appreciate.

Posted on 10 years ago
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Such a great turn of events in light of what happened to that first kit (did you pack those the way they should have been for their return trip?).

Had a bit of Burgundy luck myself recently, as you know. It's such a cool color. Those "downbeats" are my preferred sizes for drums these days but I'm plenty happy with my "new" 1968 13/16/22.

Posted on 10 years ago
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Mark this was a journey of life and collecting. I haven't had an experience like this,

But a Bud of mine got a beautiful Sonor tear drop kit in red sparkle, The drums arrived I was at his house when ups showed up, We unboxed them. both of us looked at each other in OMG look, the bubble wrap square that was in the box it was laying at the bottom of the box,

It was maybe 2 inches square maybe, that was it. The drum were nested into each other, If your not familiar with sonor teardrop tom mounts they protrude very deeply into the shells. How the hell this seller nested them is beyond me?,

We had a devil of a time getting them apart, the drums had scratches due to the shipping with no protection, Why would you take a 45 year set of drums that were in great condition and treat them in such a manner?? He sent them back got a full refund, But yet the drums lost in the end.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 10 years ago
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On the return trip I packed them way better. I felt BAD. I was looking for that kit as long as this one. The irony of this weekend just kills me! Here's some pics of what they looked like when I got them.

Posted on 10 years ago
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From markrocks68

On the return trip I packed them way better. I felt BAD. I was looking for that kit as long as this one. The irony of this weekend just kills me! Here's some pics of what they looked like when I got them.

Wow !! the broken box, Never a good sign !!

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 10 years ago
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The first picture is exactly what I saw when I opened the bass drum box. Peanuts. NOTHING wrapped around any of the drums. The FT RE-ring cracked from the impact. See the embedded image in the cardboard? The beautiful Pioneer snare put in a plastic garbage bag.

I was livid. Even after I asked him to PACK WELL.

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Posted on 10 years ago
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Wow that's a horrible pack job! Nightmare for sure. But I'm very happy you found a nice set local and got a refund for these. I was told long ago to pack things well so they can withstand a 6 foot drop. Those failed the test for sure.

Glenn.

Not a guru just havin fun with some old dusty drums.
Posted on 10 years ago
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Such a shame as this was a really nice kit and I was really looking forward to gigging with it.

Posted on 10 years ago
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All's well that ends well...and this ended well! Congrats on a super score!

Mitch

Posted on 10 years ago
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I know how you feel. 22" vintage drum in the box?

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