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Where's the beef!

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Hey, what's the secret to that meaty, beaty, big and bouncy sound that you hear on radio/ recordings coming from a snare drum that sounds like it's being played with a knife and fork instead of sticks? I'm no pro, and know nothing about the studio or amplification, but I do have some of the more respected snare drums, and just can't duplicate that thick sound. Is it simply the magic of the studio? Is there a trick to setting up the heads? I think y'all know what I mean. It's just a sound that comes across like stickin' a fork in, and reaching more than a skin deep. Anyone hungry?

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Try to tighten the bottom head and loosen the top head and put your wallet on it while you play. LoLoLoLo

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Posted on 11 years ago
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It has alot to do with production in the studio,tuning and type of snare.Deep wood snares will give you that meat and potatoes fat attack sound.This is a tough question to thoroughly answer as there are alot of variables involved here.I`m sure other members here will be able to help you more than i can.Best of luck in finding that sound you are looking for.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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For some strange acoustic reason, that sound is the realm of a loose-tuned Acro. I've had better luck getting that sound with that drum than any other.

Posted on 11 years ago
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From teverson-sr

For some strange acoustic reason, that sound is the realm of a loose-tuned Acro. I've had better luck getting that sound with that drum than any other.

+1 ! One of the best "Beefy Prime Angus " sound.

When I´m looking for that sound, then I go with a low tunning Acro.

And if you are still hungry, try to put another coated head up-side dowm (yes, over the top batter head) and try to beat it (heavy downstroke) with the bottom of the stick...

Anyway, as it was told by many other forum members, there are countless techniques/conditions, to reach "that" sound

Let us know how it worked!!


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Posted on 11 years ago
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Thanks Guys,

I've only had the Acro for a year or two - I think I'll drag it out and play with it some!

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Posted on 11 years ago
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get a 402 tighten the bottom head TIGHT put on a 48strand snare wire and start whacking the $hit out of it......... maybe a touch of muffler

Posted on 11 years ago
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Leather wallet makes a big difference. I wonder if how many bills makes a difference, tuning your wallet,lol.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Part of that sound you hear on the radio is from running compressors on the snare/track in recording, mixing and mastering.

My best recipe for it in the room is:

6.5" Acrolite (or Supra, or 5" of either will do)

Coated A. on top tuned as loose as possible.

1 Moongel (sometimes also a wallet depending on the room)

Wires not too tight. (Don't choke it)

Hit dead center on the head.

Do not hit a rimshot.

I think it was Bermuda who previously shared the trick of taking a *new* head, cutting the collar off just so you have a perfect circle that fits on top of your other head. It's a great one.

EDIT: Here's the other thread: http://vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=39731

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Posted on 11 years ago
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What happens if I'm Vegan? No, But seriously Forks...I mean, Folks: I'm still trying to figure it out what Eric Singer used on the "Seventh Star" album (Black Sabbath)…His snare sounds like a Panzer tank being hit one by one by falling bombs...

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Posted on 11 years ago
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