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B/O Badge Ludwig Concert Tom Questions

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Hi Guys,

I have a few questions i like to ask about these b/o badge Ludwig concert toms.A friend picked these up and would like to sell them but knows very little about the drums.There are eight in black cortex wrap and sizes are-6,8,10,12,13,14,15,16.The 6,8,10,12 have rounded corner badges and the 13,14,15,16 are the pointy badge and all are in very good condition.They come with four b/o sticker stands. My questions are:

Rough manufacture year of pointy vs. round?

Only two have metal rings around the bottom-is this factory made?

Are there much demand for these anymore?

Ballpark price range ?

Thanks very much for your time on this guys,i`d really appreciate any info you can supply.

Wayne

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1967 Rogers Cleveland Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1967/68 Rogers Dayton Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1966 Rogers cob 7 Line Dynasonic Snare.
1967 Rogers "Humberto Morales" Timbales.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge 14x 6.5 Black Beauty Snare.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge Red Cortex
22,22,18,16,15,14,13.
1988 Sonor "Horst Link" HLD 590 14x8 Bronze Snare
Posted on 11 years ago
#1
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Sorry guys,forgot that the 8,10,12 have metal around the bottoms.Looks like someone removed the metal ring on the 6"(see pic).Thanks again...Wayne

1967 Rogers Cleveland Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1967/68 Rogers Dayton Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1966 Rogers cob 7 Line Dynasonic Snare.
1967 Rogers "Humberto Morales" Timbales.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge 14x 6.5 Black Beauty Snare.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge Red Cortex
22,22,18,16,15,14,13.
1988 Sonor "Horst Link" HLD 590 14x8 Bronze Snare
Posted on 11 years ago
#2
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looks like part of 70 octaplus kit's

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 11 years ago
#3
Posts: 313 Threads: 13

The rounded badges indicate 6-ply "thicker" shells without re-rings, although the pointed badges did crossover into 6-ply territory. Based on both the badges and shells, the toms came from a few years apart. The pointed badge 3-ply shells (without the metal trim) would be no newer than maybe 1977, and the rounded badges no older than 1979 or 80.

The toms will sound quite different from each other, and collectors will stay away unless they happen to need four of one or the other.

Despite my best efforts in forums and via www.concerttoms.com, there's not much appreciation or demand for them these days.

Hard to say what the value is, you'd need to find someone who specifically needs either the 4 smaller, or 4 larger drums. I don't think they possess as much value as a whole set.

Could be anywhere from $250-500 for everything as-is.

Good luck,

Bermuda

Posted on 11 years ago
#4
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From bermuda

The rounded badges indicate 6-ply "thicker" shells without re-rings, although the pointed badges did crossover into 6-ply territory. Based on both the badges and shells, the toms came from a few years apart. The pointed badge 3-ply shells (without the metal trim) would be no newer than maybe 1977, and the rounded badges no older than 1979 or 80.The toms will sound quite different from each other, and collectors will stay away unless they happen to need four of one or the other.Despite my best efforts in forums and via www.concerttoms.com, there's not much appreciation or demand for them these days.Hard to say what the value is, you'd need to find someone who specifically needs either the 4 smaller, or 4 larger drums. I don't think they possess as much value as a whole set.Could be anywhere from $250-500 for everything as-is.Good luck,Bermuda

+ 1 to Bermuda!


Ludwig '67 Classic B.D.P.
Ludwig '79 Classic Pro-beat
C. A. F. '72 New Sonic "The Argentinean Ludwig"
A bunch of Ludwig snares..... + Dyna & P.Tone.
and always trying to recover some orphan drums!!
Posted on 11 years ago
#5
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I agree that there isn't a huge demand for concert toms but here in Canada vintage drum prices along with the price of everything else are higher than they are in the US. I think you could get $600-$700 for them.

Cam

"If we can't be free we can at least be cheap" -FZ
Posted on 11 years ago
#6
Posts: 313 Threads: 13

Remember, it's a mis-matched set, and one drum is missing its metal trim. And if the buyer isn't that particular, he's probably also going to think $6-700 is pretty high.

Unfortunately, there are a few strikes against these drums. If they were all 3-ply clear maple, they'd have a better shot. In good shape they could fetch $600 or more from the right buyer. Heck, I recently bought 8 concert toms, no stands, for $500, and I'm a cheap SOB! But, they all matched, and that's the key.

Bermuda

Posted on 11 years ago
#7
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From bermuda

Remember, it's a mis-matched set, and one drum is missing its metal trim. And if the buyer isn't that particular, he's probably also going to think $6-700 is pretty high.Unfortunately, there are a few strikes against these drums. If they were all 3-ply clear maple, they'd have a better shot. In good shape they could fetch $600 or more from the right buyer. Heck, I recently bought 8 concert toms, no stands, for $500, and I'm a cheap SOB! But, they all matched, and that's the key.Bermuda

Thanks Bermuda for your much trusted info on these concert toms as it totally makes sense.I`ll be sure to pass your info along to my friend who will also very much appreciate your advice.Thanks again for your knowledge and experience with these type of drums.

Wayne

1967 Rogers Cleveland Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1967/68 Rogers Dayton Champagne Sparkle
20,16,13,13.
1966 Rogers cob 7 Line Dynasonic Snare.
1967 Rogers "Humberto Morales" Timbales.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge 14x 6.5 Black Beauty Snare.
1980 Ludwig B/O badge Red Cortex
22,22,18,16,15,14,13.
1988 Sonor "Horst Link" HLD 590 14x8 Bronze Snare
Posted on 11 years ago
#8
Posts: 313 Threads: 13

You're welcome, and as a big fan of concert toms, I wish it was better news.

Bermuda

Posted on 11 years ago
#9
Posts: 274 Threads: 41

concert toms

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Posted on 11 years ago
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