bing bang boom..
Rogers..!
not just my choice / but when you sit dwn and go thru what's important..
They are the best (on paper / personal preferences etc are 2nd)..
bing bang boom..
Rogers..!
not just my choice / but when you sit dwn and go thru what's important..
They are the best (on paper / personal preferences etc are 2nd)..
All my kits are good, really good. But my 60's RB Gretsch is ridiculously good. Ok by the time I've shoe horned on the heads, once on it's a joke how easy it is to tune the kit up or down. It has such a full and charismatic tone, wether or not its that slightly annoying "Great Gretsch Sound" they bang on about at every chance. It's low tuned Rock sound is massive and deep, and actually modern sounding exactly like any new built kit, and the Jazzed up tuning is well, what new kits can struggle at and what vin Gretsch do best, you know that sound. The balance between the drums is perfect. It's not overly resonant, but it's not dry. I can tap it or smash it and it's voice is always there. It's truly the best drum kit I've ever played or owned.
BTW my 70's Gretsch is just lush too.
I own a Rogers, Slingerland, Ludwig , and multiple Gretsch kits
all 1960s....love them all very dearly
and in my opinion nothing beats the sound and feel of my Gretsch RB kits
not even close really
none are nearly as easy to tune as well
I have been selling vintage drums for over a quarter century now,and in that time I have heard quite a few times.....
"I have had Recording Customs,Star Classics,etc etc...BUT....my RB Gretsch sound the best....."
So,there must be something to that.......
No doubt that Gretsch sound awesome but that is just one aspect not fun to play when the tom slips and the spurs don't hold and in general the hardware has issues and that is being kind... same for slingy's and earl ludwig hardware was horrible.. I played a 1964 hollywood and had to take pliers to the wing nuts to keep the toms from slipping same with floor tom legs.... lets take all aspects into consideration not just the sound....
I started on a 67 Rogers 4 piece in 1974. I was privileged to use them for two years.
I purchased my first set of drums in 1979, a 1977 set of Rogers that were exactly two years old. They were my only drums until 1999 when I bought a second set of drums again... Rogers.
I have owned a couple MIJ kits, which were purchased to eventually be gifted out for beginners.
I owned a1995 set of Ayotte Customs I picked up in 2001 for ten years.
I currently own three 60s Rogers sets, two Big R five ply sets, three XP8 Rogers Big R sets and over 20 Rogers snare drums. All of these date between 1963 and 1984.
Over the years I have gotten to play on a lot of different drums, and I always appreciated the drums that were mine. As for comparisons, Rogers, Ludwig, Slingerland, Gretsch Camco, ... good drums are good drums. Every maker had some things that were outstanding, and some things that were iffy. Over the last 50 years, edge profiles have come to more closely resemble something Rogers introduced in 1962 than any other maker. There must be good reason the slightly offset double 45 with a 1/16 edge that is perfectly flat is the industry standard. The ball and socket that is used to mount anything from cymbal arms to drums, is the evolution of the Rogers SwivoMatic tom arm and cymbal tilter. Hardware that is rock solid and dependable, well, its easy to see who invented that was not home based in Asia.
I still have my first set of Rogers. And I have a set just like the Rogers I first got to play.
I do own two Supersensitives, one of which is a Black Beauty, a Supra, an Acrolite (which I believe every drummer should own), an ole Slingerland Student Deluxe, as well as a few others. I don't suffer from Rogers mania.
It does not matter what we think the truth is Rogers were the best in all aspects during the Cleveland era their lugs, hardware, shells and finish who else had glass glitter, in addition to regular sparkles? they invented the modern hardware that is still in use today and their quality was second to none, those are facts... now most of the other brand names had one or two of those attributes but none but rogers had them all....
Dayton and Fullerton (til 74 when the Big R came in) are just as good as the Clevelands too- cream of the crop-
No Kook they are not as good in many ways 1st fullerton drums went to cast hardware the collet noses were machined during the Cleveland and Dayton era. they also cheaped on the floor tom and cymbal knobbies again cast.... the shells were different and not made in house... not the same drums that is why Clevelands still bring the top money in Rogers drums.
No doubt that Gretsch sound awesome but that is just one aspect not fun to play when the tom slips and the spurs don't hold and in general the hardware has issues and that is being kind... same for slingy's and earl ludwig hardware was horrible.. I played a 1964 hollywood and had to take pliers to the wing nuts to keep the toms from slipping same with floor tom legs.... lets take all aspects into consideration not just the sound....
I can't buy that.
No Tom slip, just a Pearl Snare stand.
No BD slip just a pair of velcro back DP(Drum Plate, a dutch company) stops on my Protection Racket Mat. Also a nice sturdy DW9000 pedal.
No FT leg slip, just Pearl FT Legs.
No problem for me.
Hmmmmm velcro Nice addition to make your bass drum stay in place..
DW 9000 Hmmmm don't think that was around in 60's for that fact neither was velcro and neither was a Protection Racket Mat.. LMAO and as far as the snare stand do you have to use one because your tom holder on the bass drum sucks? I mean come on man apples to apples just use a hammer and nails that works to and is vintage..... you may not buy it but I lived it and gigged 150 dates a year in the 60's and I found out quick what was good and what was bad... and 90% of the hardware in the 60's was Bad! Rogers stood out it is the reason John Bonham, Ginger Baker, Ringo and a host of others used it instead of the stock hardware......
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