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Getting the most out of band practice Last viewed: 4 days ago

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Play music only when it has to be played during rehearse.

It annoys me when guitarist is trying some riffs during discussion.

Your brilliant drum fills, however good or not, in the middle of conversation could drive others nuts.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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From snurf

Play music only when it has to be played during rehearse.It annoys me when guitarist is trying some riffs during discussion.Your brilliant drum fills, however good or not, in the middle of conversation could drive others nuts.

This drives me crazy and it will be the first thing I bring up next week.

All good advice guys, thank you very much! As far as drinking goes, we did that 30 years ago. These guys are my old band from the 80's and we partied hard back then. Now, one is totaly dry and the rest of us will have one or two beers, maybe. We all excited to get good and were having a blast. Thanks so much for chiming in, its great to get advice from guys that have been doing this for a long time. THe other guys are thinking we can do a gig at a party on OCtober 25th. I think they are nuts but I guess we will just see how it goes. Their plan is to learn three songs in August, three in Sept. and three in Oct. We would be the "warm up band" at a friends party. Our audience will be our other friends so its not like a general public gig at a bar or something.

Thanks again!

Jeff C


Thank you!
Jeff C

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Pabst Blue Ribbon and amps turned up to 11...

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Posted on 11 years ago
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Those three songs are great to start with! especially Sunshine... always loved that song! Never played it in a live band setting though... one day, maybe.

Anyhow, good advice so far. I really likes Tnsquint's reply. I'm not sure how many times a week you guys are playing. Say, if for instance, one song is proving difficult to play as a group, set aside one practice to work exclusively on that song.. it's ok to maybe run through one of the others to break up the monotony... but focus mainly on one song that needs the most attention. Play it over and over again until everyone is really comfortable with it, then move to the next one. And like Tnsquint said, don't worry about playing the song note for note as you hear it on the recording. Don't be afraid to improvise some and play things that sound good, fit the song, and that you are comfortable with.

Creedence Clearwater Revival tunes are always a crowd favorite. Great songs and some are pretty basic. Proud Mary, Green River, Have you ever seen the rain, etc... Oh! and Marshall Tucker's "Cant you see"

Ok, ill stop before I continue to ramble on.

Have fun buddy!

-Justin

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Posted on 11 years ago
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From Lingontega

Pabst Blue Ribbon and amps turned up to 11...

Mind BlowiThat too.........whatever works to get the point across...............

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Posted on 11 years ago
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I've found this to be the most important advice I've ever gotten about bands:

You PRACTICE by yourself at home, you REHEARSE with your bandmates.

This means you learn the song, key, tempo, grooves, fills, breaks, etc. at home by yourself, so you come to REHEARSAL prepared to rehearse. Then your band rehearsals will be more productive and less frustrating.

I usually create a note sheet for a new song. I don't assume that I'll remember everything. If it's a cover song I time it so I have the BPM and bring my metronome so I can get used to counting it at the right tempo. I make notes of fills or bridge groove etc.

Everyone needs to do their work!

The when you get to rehearsal you fine tune, make adjustments, endings, and work out the bugs.

I have played with numorous bands (especially jazz) that have never seen eachother outside of a gig. Show up prepared to play and do the job.

I don't recommend this but my point is if you do the work everyone's job is easier and it can actually be fun.

We have gotten through as many as 15 songs in one 3 hr. rehearsal session, but we've been playing out for a while.

One other piece of advice. Record your rehearsals. Play them back at a later time, you'll hear your mistakes and you'll hear your improvements, and cut short a lot of arguments. "I was playing the changes, you missed the que, No you missed the que, no you were in the wrong key"- listen to the tape!!

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Posted on 11 years ago
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From mcdrummer

I've found this to be the most important advice I've ever gotten about bands:You PRACTICE by yourself at home, you REHEARSE with your bandmates.This means you learn the song, key, tempo, grooves, fills, breaks, etc. at home by yourself, so you come to REHEARSAL prepared to rehearse. Then your band rehearsals will be more productive and less frustrating. I usually create a note sheet for a new song. I don't assume that I'll remember everything. If it's a cover song I time it so I have the BPM and bring my metronome so I can get used to counting it at the right tempo. I make notes of fills or bridge groove etc.Everyone needs to do their work!The when you get to rehearsal you fine tune, make adjustments, endings, and work out the bugs. I have played with numorous bands (especially jazz) that have never seen eachother outside of a gig. Show up prepared to play and do the job.I don't recommend this but my point is if you do the work everyone's job is easier and it can actually be fun.We have gotten through as many as 15 songs in one 3 hr. rehearsal session, but we've been playing out for a while.One other piece of advice. Record your rehearsals. Play them back at a later time, you'll hear your mistakes and you'll hear your improvements, and cut short a lot of arguments. "I was playing the changes, you missed the que, No you missed the que, no you were in the wrong key"- listen to the tape!!

Great advice. I mentioned recording our sessions like we used to with a casset recorder. The question was asked if we could record off a computer but I think the old casset tapes would be better, its just harder to find a paticular place in the recording. How do you guys record?


Thank you!
Jeff C

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Posted on 11 years ago
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My band practices twice monthly for three hours. Each song get about 15 minutes. We start with working out problems with songs on our current song lists. Then we work on polishing new songs, getting them ready to go onto the song list. Finally, we start working on brand new songs.

As far as ending songs, there are many ways. Try different things and you’ll see which fits the song best.

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Posted on 11 years ago
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A Digital Audio Recorder is a nice little tool for rehearsals.. most handheld ones can be stand mounted in a central position, Take a look at the Tascam 4ch version.. easy to share copies via thumb drives or burn to cd's..

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Posted on 11 years ago
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From tnsquint

JC,Good advice thus far. I am glad you are getting to play. It is a blast. Here are a few tips that you can take or leave. Thing one; It is a good idea to really think in terms of song sections (intro, verse, chorus, turnaround, bridge, solo, breakdown, signature lick, etc.) and use those terms to work on sections of the song that might be problematic. "Hey guys, let's take that from the 2nd chorus." That allows you to work through difficult passages without having to just continually run the song over and over just to see what might go wrong the next time you get to that section in the middle. Thing two; don't get too hung up on playing everything note for note. At some point you are playing a song and doing it your way. If you don't have the skills to pull off a particular fill or pattern like it is on the record, simplify it, but keep it in a similar vein. You can work on mastering those items on your own, but no need to bog down everyone if a particular fill is an issue for you. That will just make you and everyone else frustrated. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, unless, of course, you are working on becoming a tribute band. Then you probably need to think in terms of note for note. Thing three; take a listen to various live recording to see how bands end songs. A typical ending would be slowing down until you land on the "I" (tonic) chord. This is an easy one to accomplish in a live setting as the drummer simply controls it. Everyone has to follow. There are some very standard guitar lick endings to many blues songs. Think about the ending of "Tush" for instance. Those are signature licks that occur a lot. I am always a big fan of the band writing a unique ending to a standard song. This is a great way to put your own trademark on an otherwise typical cover song. Sometimes you might actually segue into a few bars of another tune (often referred to as a "quote" in jazz circles) or write something really creative riff based off of the song in question. Those endings were almost always my favorite part of a cover song. Another option, and a great option when playing out live is to figure out a way to segue one song into another. Not only is that pretty creative on your part, but it automatically removes another spot of dead air in your performance which is always a good idea. Thing four: Enjoy yourselves and remember, unless their is a band leader and you are hired by him/her then you are somewhat beyond a democracy and a bit more into a communal system and everyone needs to feel that they are involved and contributing. That means you should play that song you don't really care for because the guitar player loves it. Having said that, when it is time to play out live, make sure you know your audience and play what is appropriate for them. You may love Rush, but playing the entire first side of 2112 in front of a crowd of people that just want to dance and drink beer probably won't cut it. Good luck and enjoy. Hope you are playing the most excellent Former BigR now script badge Rogers kit!

Very good advice! I totally agree with everything you said! In most of the bands I’ve been in the practicing has usually been the same. We usually run through a song a few times and the move on to the next. We’ll come back to it once we’ve practiced all the tunes we planned to. It’s good to play a song enough times through to get the starts, stops and transitions but not enough that you “burn out” and start making dumb mistakes. We always try to come practiced and prepared because playing as a group is much different that practicing at home. This works for us but everyone has their own way that works for them.

Keep it simple, stupid… Neil Peart

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Posted on 11 years ago
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